Hi John --

What do you think would be a better sample? My feeling is that a 24 hour
period captures global usage and we're currently at about .01% of page
views come to these domains is a pretty good indicator. Keep in mind we're
doing this for a legitimate technical reason and not arbitrarily. Looking
at the UAs is a good idea and we will do that.

thanks,

-Toby

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 6:55 AM, John <[email protected]> wrote:

> Can we look at a wider sample? using a single day as judgement factor is a
> bad idea. However if the data supports your position I dont see any serious
> problems. You might want to take a look at either the UA's or refering
> sources to see if there is a primary source for the traffic and mitigate
> that.
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Adam Baso <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Looks like the user pageviews for wap.wikipedia.org and
> > mobile.wikipedia.org
> > subdomains are approximately 0.02% of the size of pageviews for
> > m.wikipedia.org subdomains based on a recent one day check.
> >
> > hive> select count(*) from
> > wmf.webrequest where
> > year = 2015 and month = 7 and day = 14
> > and access_method = 'mobile web'
> > and (uri_host like '%.wap.wikipedia.org' OR uri_host like '%.
> > mobile.wikipedia.org')
> > and is_pageview = true and agent_type = 'user';
> >
> > 35,543
> >
> > hive> select count(*) from
> > wmf.webrequest where
> > year = 2015 and month = 7 and day = 14
> > and access_method = 'mobile web'
> > and uri_host like '%.m.wikipedia.org'
> > and is_pageview = true and agent_type = 'user';
> >
> > 202,024,891
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 5:41 AM, John <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > ... Have we done any analysis on usage of those subdomains?
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Adam Baso <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > There's a ticket for removing mobile.wikipedia.org and
> > wap.wikipedia.org
> > > > domains/subdomains, which are legacy domain names superceded by
> > > > m.wikipedia.org and its subdomains.
> > > >
> > > > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104942
> > > >
> > > > The rationale for the removal of these legacy domain names is to help
> > > > support HSTS preloading in browsers with the existing TLS SAN cert.
> > > >
> > > > After review of the ticket, can anyone think of a compelling reason
> to
> > > keep
> > > > those old domain names?
> > > >
> > > > I'm going to open a separate thread on mobile-l about this given this
> > is
> > > > more mobile-targeted, yet some people only operate on one of
> wikitech-l
> > > or
> > > > mobile-l.
> > > >
> > > > -Adam
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