Yeah, it seems to me that there's a choice here. Either have a policy with an enforcement strategy and the social support for actually following through with that enforcement strategy in a way that makes situations better rather than more acrimonious, or don't have a written policy and let nature take its course. Developing the former is a lot of work, and it's going to be imperfect. The latter can be more chaotic and will also be imperfect. So there's a choice of costs and benefits.
Pine On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 2:30 PM, rupert THURNER <[email protected]> wrote: > On Aug 13, 2015 10:16 PM, "Oliver Keyes" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 13 August 2015 at 16:10, Antoine Musso <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Le 07/08/2015 02:17, Matthew Flaschen a écrit : > > >> We're in the process of developing a code of conduct for technical > > >> spaces. This will be binding, and apply to all Wikimedia-related > > >> technical spaces (including but not limited to MediaWiki.org, > > >> Phabricator, Gerrit, technical IRC channels, and Etherpad). > > >> > > >> Please participate at > > >> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_conduct_for_technical_spaces/Draft > . > > >> Suggestions are welcome here or at > > >> > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_conduct_for_technical_spaces/Draft > > >> . > > > > > > Hello Matt, > > > > > > It seems the code of conduct is fairly similar to the friendly space > > > policy. Though the later was meant for conferences, it can probably be > > > amended to be applied to cyberspace interactions. > > > > > > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Friendly_space_policy > > > > > > Do we have any examples of unfriendly behaviour that occurred recently? > > > > > > > The thread you are replying to contains both examples of unfriendly > > behaviour in a technical context and discussion over the direct > > applicability of the friendly spaces policy; reviewing it may be a > > good idea. > > Oliver, I must be a little blind but I do not see examples of unfriendly > behaviour in this thread. > > In general, Matt, I do experience that the wikimedia movement is > criticized having too many rules and policies. Add another one does not > help. At the end of the day your target group is code contributors, not > policy readers. If somebody does not behave and not contribute, the person > is easily shut up. If somebody contributes a lot, some diplomacy is > required. What you do here is, imho, an example of an organization busy > with itself. I won't be angry if you stop this thread and delete the wiki > page. Let me add, I really appreciate and find very valuable all the other > technical contributions and discussions. And Matt, of course I appreciate > that you know what you are talking about beeing software and Wikipedia > content contributor. > > Best, > Rupert > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
