So, some questions:

* how important could that in-wiki image editing capability be?
* has anything been done so far?

I'd like to find some topic suitable for university student to work on. So
here it is: free workforce for wiki. Act now the get that! Offer some
topics. PHP related tasks preferred.

Ivo

2016-02-04 14:20 GMT+02:00 Ivo Kruusamägi <ivo.kruusam...@gmail.com>:

> OK, this Graph extension seems rather advanced and even though not exactly
> what I had in mind, somewhat similar. So may I conclude it would be
> pointless to go into that direction? Or are there some things, that may
> need someone to work with them? Like (making random example): building very
> simple Visual Editor add-on to enable fast creation of some more simple
> graphs (like pie charts from the enormous variety of possibilities
> <http://www.datavizcatalogue.com/index.html>)?
>
> Could I get more information about need for image editors? *I'd like to
> find something that might be suitable topic for bachelor thesis* and
> vandering around alone inside the topic not yet known to me may not prove
> to be fruitful.
>
> As for this Commons topic. Yes, something similar to Wikidata Game, but
> directed towards Commons and not Wikidata. More in line with Estonian sites
> Ajapaik <http://ajapaik.ee/?page=1> (for adding geolocation information
> to old images), sift.pics (for determining image types) and
> postkaart.ajapaik.ee (for digitalizing text in old postcards).
>
> Ivo
>
> 2016-02-04 5:00 GMT+02:00 MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com>:
>
>> Ivo Kruusamägi wrote:
>> >What I'd like to see is some development, that would make it possible for
>> >user to create visualizations inside MediaWiki. Something so easy that a
>> >child could do that. Like this <https://infogr.am/>. Workflow example:
>> 1)
>> >user selects sth like Create Data Visualization, 2) has some selections
>> >about cart type, colors, etc, 3) place to write down text (title, axes,
>> >description) and 4) a table to fill in with data (values + their text
>> >labels). That could then be saved as one revision. After that every other
>> >user could edit this graph with the same selections and data tables just
>> >like users edit articles and edit history is saved and easy to compare.
>> >
>> >Image files like this
>> ><https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilt:VikiArtiklitearv.jpg> or that
>> ><
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tree_map_exports_2010_Estonia.svg
>> > are ridiculous and fixes like that
>> ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Pie_chart> are not that
>> flexible,
>> >pretty and easy to use as what we need. So lets move forward.
>>
>> Are you familiar with the "Graph" MediaWiki extension? Here's a demo:
>> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Demo>. This MediaWiki
>> extension is deployed to Wikimedia wikis, including all the Wikipedias.
>>
>> >There are plenty of GPL licensed solutions that could be integrated with
>> >MediaWiki. But I can't be only one thinking about this.
>>
>> You're not. :-)
>>
>> >So what should I know about that topic so that this work could really be
>> >useful? I.e. how to avoid reinventing the wheel (like building something
>> >already in development) and how to be sure that it could be easily
>> >incorporated later? Who would be the perfect people to talk about this
>> >topic?
>>
>> This mailing list is great for general discussion. Or we have a
>> Phabricator installation at <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/> where we
>> track bugs and feature requests. You can search around for Phabricator
>> Maniphest task related to vectorized and rasterized image editors, such as
>> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T39732>. You're welcome to discuss on
>> those tasks. Integrating a decent SVG editor and a decent PNG/JPG/GIF
>> editor would be amazing!
>>
>> >P.S: I also have some development plans for a web platform that will help
>> >to gamify organizing media files in Wikimedia Commons (coordinates,
>> >categories, descriptions, quality assessment, etc). Sort like adding an
>> >additional data layer and when everything works fine then migrating that
>> >information into Commons. Any great ideas there as well? (not so great
>> >ideas could be sent to list :P )
>>
>> Sure. Maybe poke around <https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-game/> if you
>> haven't already? It sounds similar to what you want to do.
>>
>> MZMcBride
>>
>>
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