On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:00 PM, John Mark Vandenberg <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 4:21 AM, Brion Vibber <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > BlueJeans is "open source" though I can't offhand find their source code
> by
> > googling for "bluejeans source". ;)
>
> I've dug around a bit, and also cant find anything to suggest that
> they are open sourcing any parts of their solution, or anything
> resembling bjn providing development or support for existing open
> source technology components.
>
> Their own java classes are using namespace "vc.bjn", and googing that
> doesnt lead to anything.
>
> Here is their recent github organisation:
>
> https://github.com/BlueJeansNetwork
>
> This looks like an older one:
>
> https://github.com/bluejeansnet
>
> And here is the only use of "vc.bjn" in github, by an employee
>
> https://github.com/Aldaviva/tailor
>
> Other employees have "operations"-like repos
>
> https://github.com/sczizzo
>
> If the organisation is a credible contributor to open source, I havent
> found it yet.  I hope that WMF included "open sourciness" in their
> product selection criteria & evaluation, so their should be some
> document describing how BJN is contributing to open source.  It would
> be great if that can be shared.
>
> > It's being used mostly for larger meetings because a) it has a larger
> limit
> > for number of participants than Google Hangout and b) it seems to be more
> > open than Google Hangout.
> >...
> > Can't answer on if anybody's paying anything as I don't know, but
> > personally I would hope we are helping to fund their open source
> > development. ;)
>
> If BNJ isnt actually open source, here is an open source solution that
> we could use and help fund as required (e.g. buying their commercial
> offerings so that WMF Engineering/Ops doesnt need to support it)
>
> http://bigbluebutton.org/
>
> From the FAQ: If you have a session with 20 users and all share their
webcam (yes, this is possible) will generate 400 streams

Pretty much sounds like a deal breaker to me. The primary use case of
bluejeans is for meetings where we need a hundred people in the same
channel. The difference with bluejeans is it manages the streams on the
backend and sends just one video stream to each user (afaik).


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