Thank you for the pointer to the shortcuts-page. Tried some of them, they didn't work... I'l try to remember to write a bug tomorrow.
Selected text, tried Control-M, bolding did not go away. Backslash is not an easy character to reach on Norwegian keyboards, it is way off on some of them. Control-M is more manageable. On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński <[email protected]> wrote: > On 2016-03-13 19:49, John Erling Blad wrote: > >> A lot of things are much simpler in VisualEditor, but a lot of stuff is >> harder to do or simply does not work. It doesn't matter if things look >> shiny if people use a lot more time doing the same task. One area is >> editing from the keyboard, how can we do all the same things at least >> equally fast - not just that we can do them? >> > > At least speaking for the OOjs UI library (on top of which VisualEditor's > interface is built), I can assure you that a lot of effort goes into making > all actions available from keyboard only, and making our interfaces at > least no worse than the "native" ones. I think the VisualEditor team shares > these principles. > > There are some things which take more key presses (you just have fewer > "degrees of freedom" when instead of arbitrarily many buttons, you have a > finite set of keyboard keys, especially after you exclude keys ordinarily > used for typing text), and things which are slightly different than native > ones (for example, dropdown lists are different in every OS and every > browser, and we try not to do anything browser-specific, so our dropdowns > are probably different yet). But we try our best. > > > We insert a lot of top-notices (article marks), and edit them, but how can >> we do it fast? Yes we can add top-notices as templates, but they are >> hardly >> fast to add that way. >> > > This is supposed to be doable from the keyboard: > 1. Type '{{' to open template insert dialog > 2. Type the template name (the right field should be focused), confirm > with Enter > 3. Press Tab a few times until focus moves to the 'Insert' button, > confirm with Enter > > ...but, something is definitely not right at the last step. I just tried > and the focus moved through a few invisible buttons first; filed this as > T129791 [1]. Another improvement would be to be able to confirm the dialog > with Ctrl+Enter from any field, David actually implemented this recently > [2] and it should reach Wikipedias next week. > > [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129791 > [2] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/274984/ > > > We link and delink articles, but how can we do it fast? >> > > To remove a link from some text, select it and press Ctrl+\ (that's the > backslash) or Ctrl+M. (This also removes any other formatting, like bold or > italic.) > > To add or edit a link, press Ctrl+K with the text selected. You can just > confirm with Enter, or edit it and confirm them. > > By the way, there's a list of all available keyboard shortcuts built into > VisualEditor – it's under the '?' button on the toolbar, or under the > Ctrl+? shortcut :) > > -- > Bartosz Dziewoński > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
