I think improving VE to understand translate, and expanding the 
training/documentation for translate are the best next steps. This is also a 
problem on Meta-Wiki.

Removing the translate setup from the pages seems problematic as we're trying 
to make info available in languages beyond just English.

-greg

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> On Apr 1, 2016, at 9:49 AM, Brion Vibber <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> So based on notes from Niklas on the bug, it looks like there are two main
> problems:
> 
> 1) VE treats <translate>...</translate> chunks as uneditable extension
> blobs.
> 
> 2) Some/many pages use <translate>...</translate> incorrectly: spanning
> paragraphs, markup level boundaries, etc.
> 
> 
> So problem 1) can be improved in two ways:
> 1a) Have VE treat <translate>...</translate> as more or less like plaintext
> or a div or something
> 1b) Much fancier sub-document editing
> 
> Fixing problem 2) means refactoring broken pages in ways that presumably
> would require at least some of their translations to be re-created.
> 
> I don't know whether 2) is caused by problems in the translation interface,
> or by people further editing the pages without a detailed understanding of
> how the <translate> and <!--T:123--> markup bits work, or a combination of
> both.
> 
> -- brion
> 
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Brion Vibber <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 7:35 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Proper VE/Parsoid support for the <translate> extension has been wanted
>>> for
>>> a while now.  It hasn't made a list of quarterly goals yet.  Help wanted,
>>> certainly.
>> 
>> This is a HUGELY important dogfooding goal; we need to be able to edit the
>> wiki about our own product!
>> 
>> Anything we can do to help out?
>> 
>> -- brion
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