Yes, of course, & a meta discussion will likely unearth many reasons to opt-out ;)
Does uca (or extension) do the right thing for West Frisian (fy) wrt y & i ? Or, ... it would be helpful to put the list of 94 wiki somewhere easy to consume. On 28 May 2016 06:37, "Ryan Kaldari" <[email protected]> wrote: > There are currently 94 WMF wikis using UCA category collation rather than > the default "uppercase" collation. The Unicode Collation Algorithm (UCA) is > the official standard for how to sort Unicode characters, and generally > follows how a human would typically alphabetize strings. For example, > uppercase collation sorts Aztec, Ärsenik, Zoo, Aardvark as "Aardvark, > Aztec, Zoo, Ärsenik", but uca-default collation sorts them as "Aardvark, > Ärsenik, Aztec, Zoo". UCA collation also (optionally) supports natural > numeric sorting so that 100, 1, 99 sorts as "1, 99, 100" rather than "1, > 100, 99". The WMF Community Tech team has recently posted proposals on > English Wikipedia and several Wiktionaries asking if these communities > would support switching to UCA collation. The proposal on English Wikipedia > has received unanimous support so far.[1] We thought that Wiktionaries > would be more skeptical of the change, but so far we have received only > positive responses.[2] > > Since it seems that most wikis are receptive to switching to UCA, maybe we > should just make it the default rather than waiting on all the wikis to > request it separately. Of the large Wikipedias, French, Dutch, Polish, > Portuguese, and Russian are already using UCA, and German is in the process > of switching.[3] For non-Latin scripts, my understanding is that UCA will > be a big improvement, especially if we switch them to language-specific > implementations, like uca-ja, uca-zh, uca-ar, etc. > > Three questions: > 1. Does switching the default collation from "uppercase" to "uca-default" > sound like a good idea? > 2. Should this be proposed on meta or is it too technical? > 3. Are there any wikis that would need to opt out of this for some reason? > (I know there are issues with Kurdish,[4] but that's the only one I know > about.) > > 1. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Categorization#OK_to_switch_English_Wikipedia.27s_category_collation_to_uca-default.3F > 2. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128502 > 3. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128806 > 4. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T48235 > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
