(Now forking this from the "Changes in colors of user interface" thread.)
Hi Adam, Thanks for your email. I don't think that our interface evolves particularly rapidly, our interface makes me feel like it's 2003 again. I'd like to have our interface's usability and our workflows be much easier for our users, both in terms of learning how to use our tools and in terms of providing guidance about how to adhere to community policies and norms. However, editing Wikipedia and its sister sites is often much more complex than posting an update to Facebook, and WMF lacks the design and engineering resources of big tech companies, so I think that we're likely to lag behind Facebook and Google for usability for the foreseeable future. The issue which I am attempting to address is not a UI change itself (good or bad) but rather communication about proposed and upcoming UI changes. Like many other help resources, the videos and their accompanying materials (such as a quick-reference card that you mentioned) can be updated with varying degrees of ease and cost. If people know about changes well in advance, this will make updating those resources a much smoother experience both for the maintainers and for the people who rely on those resources for information. My proposal would be that proposed UI changes which affect large proportions of the user base should be announced 3 months in advance. This would provide plenty of opportunity for discussion, synchronization, and testing of proposed changes. These announcements could be neatly organized in Tech News, and Tech News could be sent to this mailing list as well as posted to individuals' personal talk pages and individual wikis' village pumps. This would likely make Tech News be a lengthier publication than it is today, but I would find notifications like these to be highly valuable and I think that other community members would too. English Wikipedia for awhile had a wiki-specific list of proposed changes (largely focused on policy, but also related to technical matters and community organization) that ran in the Signpost; what I envision for Tech News would be similar except with a longer time horizon and aimed at technical and design audiences. What do you think? Pine On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 2:07 AM, Adam Wight <awi...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Hi Pine, > > That's a really interesting question you bring up, that people develop > associations between colors and exact positions on the screen, so that > moving or discoloring a button will jar them out of a pleasant, easy to > anticipate experience, and will invalidate some of what they learned, > possibly making the videos less effective teaching tools as the interface > changes. > > I'm not sure what we (wearing my WMF hat) can do to help with the problem, > however. Change control at the level you're talking about would mean a > radical reworking of our deployment strategy. As I understand it, the > alternative is to stockpile code changes and do big software releases on a > longer timeline, but that's a somewhat discredited approach. If we stick > to the lighter, weekly deployments then it's inevitable that the interface > will be evolving rapidly. > > Also, let me thank you for your work on the instructional videos! I'm sure > these will make a huge difference for newbies and might even attract new > editors. In an ideal world, we could write scripts to automate the UI > segments you'll be filming, and could even replay them later and replace > segments to publish new editions of the videos. Short of that, however, > maybe you could distribute a companion quick reference card, which would be > easier to keep up-to-date and would illustrate the placement and coloration > of major components. > > I'm happy to see so many of my colleagues in this thread, and feeling > immensely proud that such a potentially explosive issue (the bigger issue > of WMF deployments in the context of broader community consensus and > engagement in the process) was discussed at length, yet there was nothing > but an outpouring of generosity and assumption of good faith. This is when > it feels good to be a Wikimedian! > > I do think we should start new threads for potential ideas to improve WMF > deployment communication. Amir's announcement was a wonderful model of > developer citizenship, and I think the palette change itself is beyond > reproach. Continuing here makes me uncomfortable really, because our focus > should not be on Amir's patch or even his announcement, but on the bigger > issues of two-way communication. Making sure we're targeting policy for > criticism rather than people is essential to this healthy > communication--otherwise some of us will feel obliged to defend the person > being targeted and will struggle to be receptive to the constructive > content. > > Warm regards, > Adam _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
