Venerability policy? That's a new one. Verifiability policy. (Spellcheck is
not always a wiki-lawyer's best friend.)

Pine


On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote:

> Speaking generally, guidance can be helpful even if it's not a policy.
> English Wikipedia has similar ways of organizing information and how-to
> guides. Some guidance documents are categorized as essays, some as
> guidelines, and some as policies. It's worth noting that enforcement is,
> somewhat counter-intuitively, not tied directly to the "authority level" of
> a document. For example, the venerability policy is frequently violated but
> generally people are rarely blocked for violating it, while the exceptions
> to norms that are tolerated under "Ignore All Rules" have become thin as
> Wikipedia's complexity has grown and practices have become more detailed
> and standardized. (I believe that Aaron Halfaker has done some research on
> that last point.)
>
> Pine
>
> Pine
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 1:24 AM, Rogol Domedonfors <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> If there's not going to be anything to implement, how do you see this as
>> having an effect on anything?  What will be done differently or better?
>> Why should anyone be doing any work on it?  How will we know whether or
>> not
>> it has been a success, and whther or not the time effort and effort was
>> well-spent?
>>
>> "Rogol"
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 10:35 PM, Keegan Peterzell <
>> [email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Rogol Domedonfors <
>> [email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Is the *Technical Collaboration Guidance*
>> > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Collaboration_Guidance still
>> > > actively under development?
>> >
>> >
>> > ​Yes, there are internal stakeholder discussions still underway.
>> > ​
>> >
>> > > There seems to have been no discussion of any
>> > > substance since January.  Is there an intention to bring the
>> discussion
>> > to
>> > > a close
>> >
>> >
>> > ​Eventually the plan is to remove the draft tag, yes.
>> > ​
>> >
>> > > and to implement the guidance?
>> >
>> >
>> > ​As guidance, there is nothing to "implement" as you say. As has been
>> > discussed on the talk page, these are not rules to be placed into
>> effect.
>> > This is a guidance manual from the TC team. The guidance is available
>> for
>> > teams to check if they'd like a written resource for the type of work
>> that
>> > Community Liaisons generally do.​
>> >
>> > ​Further questions are welcome on the talk page, where discussions can
>> be
>> > properly captured on-wiki.​
>> >
>> > --
>> > Keegan Peterzell
>> > Technical Collaboration Specialist
>> > Wikimedia Foundation
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