There's a pile of minor open source browsers too ... maybe redirect to a page with a list.
- d. On 31 August 2017 at 22:48, Neil Patel Quinn <[email protected]> wrote: > Personally (because I have no expertise in thing kind of thing in my WMF > capacity), I'd very much support this. It *would *be showing a bias towards > Mozilla and Firefox, but I think it's entirely reasonable for us to be > biased towards non-profit, open technology. A web with Firefox as a strong > player is considerably more hospitable to us than one without. > > I agree this should be discussed in a wider forum like on Meta, but I look > forward to supporting it there too :) > > On 31 August 2017 at 14:20, Fæ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 31 August 2017 at 21:37, bawolff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Legoktm <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >> Hello, > > >> > > >> This was something that came up during "The Big Open" at Wikimania, > when > > >> Katherine Maher talked with Ryan Merkley (CEO of Creative Commons) and > > >> Mark Surman (ED of Mozilla Foundation). One of the themes mentioned > was > > >> that our projects need to work together and support each other. > > >> > > >> In that vein, I'm interested in what people think about promoting > > >> Firefox to users who are using legacy browsers that we don't support > at > > >> Grade A (or some other criteria). As part of the "drop IE8 on XP" > > >> project[1] we're already promoting Firefox as the alternative option. > I > > >> was imagining it could be a small and unobtrusive bubble > > >> notification[2], similar to those that Google pushes Chrome on people > > with. > > >> > > >> If users use modern browsers, they're going to have better security > > >> support, and most likely a better experience browsing Wikimedia sites > > >> too. We'd be improving the web by reducing legacy browsers, and > allowing > > >> us to move forward with newer technology sooner (ideally). > > >> > > >> And we'd be supporting a project that is ideologically aligned with > us: > > >> Mozilla. > > >> > > >> Thoughts, opinions? > > >> > > >> [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147199 > > >> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bubble_notifications > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> -- Legoktm > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Wikitech-l mailing list > > >> [email protected] > > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > > I'm concerned this would be seen as an inapropriate bias. > > > > > > Suggesting Firefox for IE8 on XP makes sense because it is basically > > > the only option for that platform that is reasonably secure and not > > > super obscure. Promoting firefox is general for legacy browsers seems > > > like a slippery slope to me. > > > > > > Additionally, I think this is more a political than a technical > > > decision, and one that would require consultation with the general > > > Wikimedia community (e.g. Meta RFC). > > > > > > -- > > > Brian > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > +1 on appearing to be a slippery slope and benefiting from wider, > > political, discussion. > > > > I've promoted Wikimedia and projects as being deliberately agnostic. > > Strategically, locking Wikimedia into fixed relationships with other > > organizations with their own drives and timelines, is going to > > increase risks downstream. > > > > Fae > > -- > > [email protected] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > > -- > Neil Patel Quinn <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Neil_P._Quinn-WMF>, > product analyst > Wikimedia Foundation > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
