On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 2:31 AM Antoine Musso <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 05/09/2017 17:47, Chad wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 2:28 AM Joaquin Oltra Hernandez < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I think that people using old browsers on desktop, are most surely > doing it > >> because they have to (company policy on locked down computers) and > showing > >> them a banner or similar is only going to detract from their experience > >> with information they don't neither want nor need. > >> > >> > > To be honest, bugging these users means hopefully they'll bug their IT > > managers to finally get their fucking asses in the 2010s and stop being > > irresponsible. I won't lose any sleep over annoying them... > > That is not how it works in a big company. To deploy a new browser you > gotta: > * update the base images used to deploy the workstations > * revalidate all the applications > * revalidate all the web apps with that new browser (cough ActiveX, > Java, Flash, obsolete js etc) > * roll it incrementally to the ten or hundred of thousands of workstation > > That is a 12-18 months project and you don't do it "just" to upgrade a > browser that is however working fine for your business applications. > > In the end the IT managers cant do it as easily as they would want due > to time/cost. I got your point for sure, and I am pretty sure web > compatibility has forced them to update their browser already, they are > just lagging by a few years. > > I'm well aware of how corporate IT works. A 12-18 month project....that should've been started in May 2010 when Microsoft announced the end of XP support. That's like 80+ months and counting. I'm sorry, but if you're the IT executive who thinks that is acceptable then you should resign in absolute shame and leave the field IT. I never said it was cheap, or easy, but that it has to be done. Maybe if we annoy the CEO of a company a directive will magically come down from on high ;-) > > I am pretty sure the popup would be annoying to a lot of users. > Hopefully when most websites no more work in their browser, they would > eventually switch to a new computer. But that can take a decade+ to > achieve :-( > > The internet is quickly disappearing from these browsers. Warning them beforehand is better than just one day going dark with no explanation. > If we crafted nice tutorials as to how to install and use the few > browsers we offer, that might help. Chrome and Firefox most probably > already have such tutorials for all the OSes they support. > > Link to their sites. They typically have nice big INSTALL ME buttons on their homepages :) -Chad _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
