If you don't have access to old mediawiki version (whether it is group2, your own wiki or test3wiki suggested above), and suspects there is a regression of something that was working in the past, it is useful to indicate it in the bug description, and the maintainer of that feature can check it out (either by indications from git log with relevant commit messages, or by restoring to older code)
You can also go over the commits log using web interface: https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/commits/master and as Niharika said there are a lot of new changes :) While this is static (compared to running mediawiki instance) it as its own advantages: You can find out who is the owner (blame), related bugs (usually "Bug: X" in commit message) etc On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 8:27 AM, Niharika Kohli <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > When filing a phab task with some new bug, > > you always want to know - is it really new, or I just did not pay > attention > > to it before? > > What's the purpose of this information? If it's a bug, new or not, a ticket > needs to be filed. > > And when I do know it's a new bug, I can open both versions > > in the same time, and compare the behaviour for this bug. And also, > compare > > the console results - what exactly changed in html, in css, in js > commands > > reactions. > > I agree that information will save some developer time but at the same time > this information is not so easy to gather. This is helpful when the users > have some working knowledge of how developer tools work and how to compare > file changes. Usually in each version there are a lot of new changes. Often > it's not easy for developers even to find out what could be causing the > bug. > > I can easily imagine such a wiki quickly falling into disuse. > > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:29 PM, יגאל חיטרון <[email protected]> wrote: > > > It can work. But another Monday. I mean, if Tue-Wed-Thu there is a > > deployment of version ....5, a day before, Mon there is a deployment of > > version ....4, so starting from tomorrow, group 0 will get a way to see > > both version, exactly from the beginning, but not until the end, for 6 > > days, group 1 for 5 days, and group 2 for 4 days. And from Monday to the > > deployment, 1-2-3 days, there will not be use of this. I'll be very glad > if > > it will be decided to do this, and if so, it will be a good thing to add > to > > the text of how to report a bug in phabricator help, something about, you > > can check if it is a regression, the last version "falt", by comparing > with > > this new wiki. I can thing about many dozens of tasks I wrote and read > > where this information could be useful, if added at the first place. Hope > > you decide this indeed. Thank you very much, > > Igal > > > > > > On Sep 22, 2017 05:17, "Chad" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > No non-emergency deployments on Fridays, Saturdays or Sundays. > > > Monday could work. > > > > > > -Chad > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:15 PM יגאל חיטרון <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I glad you say so. What about Friday? > > > > Igal > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 22, 2017 05:07, "Chad" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > It wouldn't be hard to do at all, technically. I imagine it'd be > > > > something > > > > > like a test3wiki. > > > > > > > > > > Main thing to know is when do we cycle off of the old version? When > > the > > > > > version goes out on Tuesdays? That day's already pretty loaded for > > > > software > > > > > moving about... > > > > > > > > > > -Chad > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 1:25 PM Brian Wolff <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Making your case here is probably best. The release engineering > > team > > > > are > > > > > > the people you probably have to convince, although of course > anyone > > > > could > > > > > > potentially create such a wiki, in an unofficial way. > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep in mind that keeping an older version of the software > running > > > does > > > > > > introduce a maintinance burden, so you will probably have to > > convince > > > > > > people that it would be regularly useful and not just useful this > > one > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > bawolff > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, September 21, 2017, יגאל חיטרון <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Thank you. Sorry to hear this. Is there some place I can > suggest > > > this > > > > > and > > > > > > > explain why do I think it can be very helpful? > > > > > > > Igal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 21, 2017 22:12, "Brian Wolff" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Thursday, September 21, 2017, יגאל חיטרון < > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >> > Hi. Sometimes after the week deployment I need to compare > the > > > new > > > > > > version > > > > > > >> > with the previous one, in some aspect. Is there a test wiki > > that > > > > > > always > > > > > > >> has > > > > > > >> > one version before the current? > > > > > > >> > Thank you. > > > > > > >> > Igal (User:IKhitron) > > > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > >> > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > > > > >> > [email protected] > > > > > > >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> No there is not. You can of course download old versions of > the > > > > > software > > > > > > >> and setup your own wiki but that is a lot of effort. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> -- > > > > > > >> bawolff > > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > >> Wikitech-l mailing list > > > > > > >> [email protected] > > > > > > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > > -- > Niharika > Software Engineer > Community Tech > Wikimedia Foundation > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
