Who's gonna maintain this installation? On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Niharika Kohli <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'd like to add that having Discourse will provide the one thing IRC > channels and mailing lists fail to - search capabilities. If you hangout on > the #mediawiki IRC channel, you have probably noticed that we get a lot of > repeat questions all the time. This would save everyone time and effort. > > Not to mention ease of use. Discourse is way more usable than IRC or > mailing lists. Usability is the main reason there are so many questions > about MediaWiki asked on Stackoverflow instead: > https://stackoverflow.com/unanswered/tagged/mediawiki > <https://stackoverflow.com/unanswered/tagged/mediawiki>, > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/mediawiki-api?sort=newest > <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/mediawiki-api?sort=newest>, > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/mediawiki-extensions... > > I'd personally hope we can stop asking developers to go to IRC or mailing > lists eventually and use Discourse/something else as a discussion forum for > support. > > On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Quim Gil <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi, I have expanded > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Discourse#One_place_to_ > > seek_developer_support > > > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk is the only channel > > whose main purpose is to provide support. The volunteers maintaining are > > the ones to decide about its future. There is no rush for any decisions > > there. First we need to run a successful pilot. > > > > The rest of channels (like this mailing list) were created for something > > else. If these channels stop receiving questions from new developers, > they > > will continue doing whatever they do now. > > > > > I'd like to understand how adding a venue will improve matters. > > > > For new developers arriving to our shores, being able to ask a first > > question about any topic in one place with a familiar UI is a big > > improvement over having to figure out a disseminated landscape of wiki > Talk > > pages, mailing lists and IRC channels (especially if they are not used to > > any of these environments). The reason to propose this new space is them, > > not us. > > > > On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 5:01 PM, MZMcBride <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Brian Wolff wrote: > > > >On Friday, November 17, 2017, Quim Gil <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> The Technical Collaboration team proposes the creation of a > developer > > > >> support channel focusing on newcomers, as part of our Onboarding New > > > >> Developer program. We are proposing to create a site based on > > Discourse > > > >> (starting with a pilot in discourse-mediawiki.wmflabs.org) and to > > point > > > >>the many existing scattered channels there. > > > > > > > >What does point existing channels to discouse mean exactly? Are you > > > >planning to shutdown any existing channels? If so, which ones? > > > > > > Excellent questions. I'd like to know the answers as well. > > > > > > I raised a similar point at > > > <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Discourse>. I skimmed > > > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155678>, looking for some answers, > > and > > > I didn't find any. > > > > > > Quim, are you involved in MediaWiki support in places such as the > > > #mediawiki IRC channel or the mediawiki-l mailing list? Are you > involved > > > in MediaWiki support elsewhere? I'm trying to better understand how it > > > would be appropriate for you to seemingly suggest disrupting or > shutting > > > down these established and functioning venues. If this is not your > > > suggestion, I'd like to understand how adding a venue will improve > > matters. > > > > > > MZMcBride > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Quim Gil > > Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > > -- > Niharika > Software Engineer > Community Tech > Wikimedia Foundation > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > -- Best regards, Max Semenik ([[User:MaxSem]]) _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
