Hi,

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 9:32 PM, MZMcBride <[email protected]> wrote:
> Alexandros Kosiaris wrote:
>>This is to inform you that on Monday Feb 22nd 2018 ~10:00 UTC, the
>>infrastructure powering irc.wikimedia.org will be rebooted for
>>security upgrades. This is expected to only impact bots that are using
>>irc.wikimedia.org AND are not able to automatically reconnect on
>>connection failure. From recent experience (the equipment was rebooted
>>210 ago last time, with no fallout) those are very limited in number
>>these days.
>
> Thank you for this notice.

Sorry for not answering sooner, I 've just seen this.

>
> Do you know if it's still the case that per-wiki channels on
> irc.wikimedia.org are not available/able to be joined until there's
> activity on that wiki?

I did not know that, but I just researched it and that is still the
case. For future reference the code in question is in
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/operations-puppet/browse/production/modules/mw_rc_irc/files/udpmxircecho.py;b2d13fbc838a7f994a2e97fdffc07f15fe88bc29$49


> My memory is that reconnecting to irc.wikimedia.org
> has not usually been the issue (as you note), but instead it's been that
> there's a speaking bot account on the network that would only create a
> channel after there's some activity to report about that wiki. For larger
> wikis with lots of activity, this means the channels get created nearly
> instantly after a server restart. For smaller wikis with little activity,
> this means that the channels may not get re-created for days or even weeks.

I have no such recollection but it does make sense.

>
> I just tested irc.wikimedia.org again and it appears that joining/creating
> arbitrary channels is not allowed. This makes me think that bot accounts
> and others would be disallowed from joining small/quiet wiki channels
> until those channels are re-created by by the server/rc-pmtpa, unless some
> kind of whitelist or workaround has been implemented.

That's true. But I don't expect this to cause any kind of major
problems and experience up to now supports that. But thanks for
bringing it up. I learned something today.

-- 
Alexandros Kosiaris <[email protected]>

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