> ... the size differences shown on the history and contributions pages,
which is the only thing that rev_parent_id is used for

This may be true in MediaWiki but not so much for external tools. I just
wanted to preemptively say this. I'll be joining the IRC discussion to
share more :)

~Leon

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 2:23 PM Daniel Kinzler <[email protected]>
wrote:

> As mentioned in the TechCom radar email last week, there will be a public
> IRC
> discussion on  the future of rev_parent_id on Wednesday, 2018-06-06 in the
> #wikimedia-office channel at 2pm PST(22:00 UTC, 23:00 CET).
>
> The RFCs original title was "Use ar_page_id to determine the parent IDs for
> undeleted revisions" <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193690>.
> However, the
> discussion has drifted quite a bit, and is now touching on questions
> around the
> size differences shown on the history and contributions pages, which is
> the only
> thing that rev_parent_id is used for. Perhaps we should have filed a
> separate
> ticket, but at this point, that would just have meant splitting the
> conversation, and creating more confusion...
>
> Anyway, in preparation of the RFC discussion, here are again the main
> question
> that need answering:
>
> * Can we do without rev_parent_id entirely?  Can we live without the size
> info
> on Special:Contributions, or can we query it cheaply enough?
>
> * Do we want to record the original "edit as intended", and if yes, where?
>
> * On a side note, what's the best way to detect a page's first revision,
> and do
> we still need that if we have the page creation log (and recentchanges).
>
> I have tried to summarize the discussion so far, with the available
> options and
> considerations, at <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193690#4254713>.
>
> --
> Daniel Kinzler
> Principal Platform Engineer
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland
> Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.
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