On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Leon Ziemba <musikani...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > ... the size differences shown on the history and contributions pages, > which is the only thing that rev_parent_id is used for > > This may be true in MediaWiki but not so much for external tools. I just > wanted to preemptively say this. I'll be joining the IRC discussion to > share more :) > > ~Leon > To add to Leon's use case, I would argue that it may be one use case but it's a pretty visible one to active contributors who are familiar with the history page. It may be worth clarifying whether this is a backend change that would keep the feature intact or if this change would result in a change to Wikimedia projects' user experience. > > On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 2:23 PM Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de > > > wrote: > > > As mentioned in the TechCom radar email last week, there will be a public > > IRC > > discussion on the future of rev_parent_id on Wednesday, 2018-06-06 in > the > > #wikimedia-office channel at 2pm PST(22:00 UTC, 23:00 CET). > > > > The RFCs original title was "Use ar_page_id to determine the parent IDs > for > > undeleted revisions" <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193690>. > > However, the > > discussion has drifted quite a bit, and is now touching on questions > > around the > > size differences shown on the history and contributions pages, which is > > the only > > thing that rev_parent_id is used for. Perhaps we should have filed a > > separate > > ticket, but at this point, that would just have meant splitting the > > conversation, and creating more confusion... > > > > Anyway, in preparation of the RFC discussion, here are again the main > > question > > that need answering: > > > > * Can we do without rev_parent_id entirely? Can we live without the size > > info > > on Special:Contributions, or can we query it cheaply enough? > > > > * Do we want to record the original "edit as intended", and if yes, > where? > > > > * On a side note, what's the best way to detect a page's first revision, > > and do > > we still need that if we have the page creation log (and recentchanges). > > > > I have tried to summarize the discussion so far, with the available > > options and > > considerations, at <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193690#4254713>. > > > > -- > > Daniel Kinzler > > Principal Platform Engineer > > > > Wikimedia Deutschland > > Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
