Hi Martin, I think that putting the info in Tech News is a good idea. I would suggest reaching out to wikis that get large volumes of new users to ask for input from patrollers and other users who could be affected. Here are a few places that I would recommend on ENWP for short notices regarding the proposed change.
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Recent_changes_patrol * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical) I also suggest testing the change in phases before scaling it up to all wikis, in order to check for unintended consequences. Thank you in advance for being careful about the implementation of this change. The change might work perfectly well, but sometimes "the road to hell is paved with good intentions", so I think that some advance consultation and a phased rollout with a moderate amount of testing would be a good idea. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 9:43 PM Martin Urbanec <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Pine, > > well, I'm a patroller, admin and a checkuser myself, and as you know, I > don't see a problem with this change :-). Anyway, I'm just one of them. At > least in cswiki, admns don't have issues with manually confirming users on > request by course coordinator, autoconfirmed shouldn't be a big deal. > > Don't know how to consult (all) patrollers etc., IIRC there is no central > list for them or anything like that. Feel free to forward my message to > anywhere you think it is helpful (please, ping me/CC me in such messages, > so I can watch the conversation on that place as well). > > I've added > < > https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tech%2FNews%2F2019%2F30&type=revision&diff=19203494&oldid=19203433 > >this > to next tech news, to notify about this change more widely than "just" on > wikitech-l. > > Martin > > pá 12. 7. 2019 v 0:05 odesílatel Pine W <[email protected]> napsal: > > > Hi Martin, > > > > I'm not familiar with all of the information about how WMF currently uses > > CAPTCHAs, but I suggest being careful about doing anything that could add > > to the workloads of volunteer patrollers, admins, and checkusers. My > > feeling is that you should consult with people who are most likely to get > > more work as a result of this change, even if you think that any negative > > impact will be negligible. There may be some requests for carefully > > designed tests to ensure that any changes do not result in surprise > > increases to workloads for existing volunteers who already have more than > > enough work to do. > > > > Pine > > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 2:37 PM Martin Urbanec < > [email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I created https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227487, which proposes to > > add > > > skipcaptcha to all users coming from throttle-exempted IP addresses > (see > > > /wmf-config/throttle.php in operations/mediawiki-config for that). This > > can > > > make some events go more smoothly. Given users coming from such > addresses > > > are generally trusted, this shouldn't be an issue IMHO. > > > > > > What do the others think? > > > > > > Martin > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
