In fairness, pipermail archives were always a bit shaky - on the occasions when an email's had to be removed from the archive previously, it's messed up the URLs of all the other emails in that month's archive.
But let's say it would be *nice* not to mess up the public archive URLs if feasible :-) - d. On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 at 21:19, Amir Sarabadani <[email protected]> wrote: > > hmm, Links of archived discussions in private mailing lists are not as > important as the ones in public lists, we definitely should migrate public > mailing lists first and after that we can migrate any private mailing list > that is okay with their links being broken (and then we remove those old > archives to make it unaccessible to public). It probably means we need to > keep mailman2 around for a while. > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 9:38 PM AntiCompositeNumber < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > I would agree that it would be a good solution, except for the next > > bullet in the same document: > > "The above mechanism won’t work for private archives since the > > archives are gated with password and without a Mailman 2 list, there > > is no password. You can however import them to Mailman 3." > > > > Since keeping private lists private is also a requirement, that pretty > > much means rolling our own auth system on top of Mailman 3 or creating > > a bunch of HTTP redirect rules. > > > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 3:31 PM Amir Sarabadani <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > According to the upgrade guide ( > > > https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/migration.html#other-considerations > > ): > > > "If you need your URLs for Mailman 2 archives to work, you can keep the > > > HTML files generated for the archives around and your web server > > > configuration for the archives intact (possibly with a notice to viewers > > > that it is now a read-only archive, see this list > > > <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/security-sig/> for example)." > > > > > > Here's an example: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/security-sig/ > > (with a > > > notice). > > > > > > It means, the old archives will stay the same (and accessible/searchable > > > with the new interface as well) but new mails won't get added there to > > the > > > old archives. I think that's a good compromise. > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 9:19 PM David Gerard <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > yes - those links are thrown around as if they're archival. How will > > > > the change affect links to past messages? Will someone need to > > > > construct a redirect farm? > > > > > > > > > > > > - d. > > > > > > > > On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 at 19:54, AntiCompositeNumber > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Glad to hear this is moving forward! > > > > > > > > > > Keeping archive links working, for both public and private lists, > > > > > should be a requirement. There's a lot of institutional knowledge > > > > > stored in the mailing list archives, and it's very important to keep > > > > > that around. > > > > > > > > > > ACN > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 1:05 PM Zoran Dori <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > this looks great. Especially because of "mobile friendly" function. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Zoran Dori > > > > > > Volunteer on Wikimedia Foundation's projects > > > > > > E: [email protected] > > > > > > W: kizule.tk > > > > > > I: iamkizule <https://instagram.com/iamkizule> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Amir (he/him) > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > -- > Amir (he/him) > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
