Hi y'all,
Do we use levels for any of these error log outputs? That is, are they
classified on output as High, Medium, Low, Info, or something like that?

Or do we have to triage each of them as we examine them?

I was just thinking if they were somehow leveled, we could use measurements
of the number of each type and set targets for lowering the number of those
kinds of logs. That would potentially help visualize and prioritize the
work. It might be easier to say something like that, "Let's have a goal to
produce 10% less High errors in the next two months," than to have a more
nebulous approach that seems to require Tyler or someone from his team to
highlight tasks that are especially impactful.

I'm mostly ignorant of exactly how these processes work now so if I'm
telling y'all something you already know, forgive me. I was mostly thinking
out loud about how we could start to approach the work more systematically.

Alex Ezell (he/him)
Senior Engineering Manager
Wikimedia Foundation


On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 10:36 AM Tyler Cipriani <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 5:24 AM Derk-Jan Hartman
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > In particular I count 13 frontend problems with the old TMH kaltura
> player.
> > There is clearly no intent to fix those (volunteer or employee), as the
> > Kaltura player has been unmaintained for 8 years.
> > The choices as far as I can tell are to ignore them, undeploy a/v
> playback
> > or to direct C-level management to get the audio and video stuff
> together.
>
> The tasks that I mentioned in my original message are, likewise, tasks
> that I'm not sure belong to any team or any particular person.
>
> I have been using the phab tag/milestone "Release Engineering
> (Logspam)" to ensure that we don't lose track of tasks that are:
>
> 1. problems in production
> 2. tagged in phabricator with a team or component (in contrast to
> problems with unknown components/team tags)
> 3. no longer resourced or maintained in a discernible way
>
> Feel free to apply that tag if those 3 conditions apply to these
> tasks. Tracking these will make it easier to raise awareness later.
>
> Thanks!
> -- Tyler
>
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