It's possible that I'm very out of touch, but I'll ask anyway :) As far as I know, the main place where editors of Wikimedia's wiki sites actually see ORES in action is the filtering and highlighting functionality on Recent Changes. This functionality is enabled in a limited number of wikis, but at least in some of those wikis, it works pretty well; I've just done a quick and informal poll on the Hebrew Wikipedia village pump, and the responses till now were that this is a good feature that helps with patrolling.
The email says that "All ML models currently accessible on ORES are also currently accessible on Lift Wing", and if I understand correctly, this means that this feature in Recent Changes will keep working. Do I understand correctly? :) In addition, I have some followup questions: 1. The MediaWiki extension that implements the frontend in Recent Changes is itself named "ORES". It's an internal name that isn't seen much by wiki editors except if they go to Special:Version or to translatewiki. Nevertheless, as the time goes by, seeing the old name may start getting weird. So what's the plan about it? Will this extension remain as is? Will it be renamed? Will it be replaced with a new frontend extension in the foreseeable future? 2. Back when ORES was originally developed and deployed around 2017, several wiki editors' communities participated in the development by adapting the product to the needs of their wikis and languages by translating the ORES extension's user interface and, more importantly, by labelling a sample of several thousands of diffs from their wiki using the Wikilabels tool. The communities that did that whole process were, more or less, the communities to which this Recent Changes enhancement was deployed. Will anything like that have to be done again along with the move away from ORES? 3. Will this change open up the possibility of deploying this Recent Changes enhancement, or a newer version thereof, to more wikis and languages? If you think that my questions show a wrong understanding of something, please let me know—as I said in the beginning, its quite possible :) Thanks! בתאריך יום ה׳, 3 באוג׳ 2023, 17:16, מאת Chris Albon <[email protected]>: > Hi everybody, > > TL;DR We would like users of ORES models to migrate to our new open source > ML infrastructure, Lift Wing, within the next five months. We are available > to help you do that, from advice to making code commits. It is important to > note: All ML models currently accessible on ORES are also currently > accessible on Lift Wing. > > As part of the Machine Learning Modernization Project ( > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Machine_Learning/Modernization), the > Machine Learning team has deployed a Wikimedia’s new machine learning > inference infrastructure, called Lift Wing ( > https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Machine_Learning/LiftWing). Lift Wing > brings a lot of new features such as support for GPU-based models, open > source LLM hosting, auto-scaling, stability, and ability to host a larger > number of models. > > With the creation of Lift Wing, the team is turning its attention to > deprecating the current machine learning infrastructure, ORES. ORES served > us really well over the years, it was a successful project but it came > before radical changes in technology like Docker, Kubernetes and more > recently MLOps. The servers that run ORES are at the end of their planned > lifespan and so to save cost we are going to shut them down in early 2024. > > We have outlined a deprecation path on Wikitech ( > https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/ORES), please read the page if you > are a maintainer of a tool or code that uses the ORES endpoint > https://ores.wikimedia.org/). If you have any doubt or if you need > assistance in migrating to Lift Wing, feel free to contact the ML team via: > > - Email: [email protected] > - Phabricator: #Machine-Learning-Team tag > - IRC (Libera): #wikimedia-ml > > The Machine Learning team is available to help projects migrate, from > offering advice to making code commits. We want to make this as easy as > possible for folks. > > High Level timeline: > > **By September 30th 2023: *Infrastructure powering the ORES API endpoint > will be migrated from ORES to Lift Wing. For users, the API endpoint will > remain the same, and most users won’t notice any change. Rather just the > backend services powering the endpoint will change. > > Details: We'd like to add a DNS CNAME that points ores.wikimedia.org to > ores-legacy.wikimedia.org, a new endpoint that offers a almost complete > replacement of the ORES API calling Lift Wing behind the scenes. In an > ideal world we'd migrate all tools to Lift Wing before decommissioning the > infrastructure behind ores.wikimedia.org, but it turned out to be really > challenging so to avoid disrupting users we chose to implement a transition > layer/API. > > To summarize, if you don't have time to migrate before September to Lift > Wing, your code/tool should work just fine on ores-legacy.wikimedia.org > and you'll not have to change a line in your code thanks to the DNS CNAME. > The ores-legacy endpoint is not a 100% replacement for ores, we removed > some very old and not used features, so we highly recommend at least test > the new endpoint for your use case to avoid surprises when we'll make the > switch. In case you find anything weird, please report it to us using the > aforementioned channels. > > **September to January: *We will be reaching out to every user of ORES we > can identify and working with them to make the migration process as easy as > possible. > > **By January 2024: *If all goes well, we would like zero traffic on the > ORES API endpoint so we can turn off the ores-legacy API. > > If you want more information about Lift Wing, please check > https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Machine_Learning/LiftWing > > Thanks in advance for the patience and the help! > > Regards, > > The Machine Learning Team > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikitech-l.lists.wikimedia.org/
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