Hi!

Toolforge is way less reliable than Wikimedia production wikis. Since 2019, I 
have been using TF for serving a stylesheet for my own custom dark mode and it 
occured many times that the connection to TF hanged, resulting in unacceptable 
loading times when trying to load Wikipedia page.

I'm not sure how the case is policy-wise, but I would recommend against loading 
content from Toolforge by default for all users, because it will happen that 
the service will break and be unavailable for even a few hours (eg., during 
some maintenance or outages).

Regards,
Marcin
Msz2001


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From: diskdance via Wikitech-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2025 12:54:08 PM
To: Wikitech-l <[email protected]>
Cc: diskdance <[email protected]>
Subject: [Wikitech-l] Serving webfont via Toolforge by default

Hello everyone,

The Chinese Wikipedia is holding a discussion [1][2] about wiping out tofus 
when displaying rare Chinese characters. During the discussion, one option 
turned out to be serving a webfont covering all CJK planes, which was the 
practice on Chinese Wikipedia more than a decade ago before it was disabled for 
security reasons. Since the reasons are still valid and ULS is no longer 
accepting new font additions, so the only feasible way to achieve this is to 
serve the webfont via a Toolforge domain.

Due to potential impacts of this proposal, I'm writing to ask:

  1.  Is it acceptable to serve a webfont (conditionally or not conditionally) 
via Toolforge by default, policy-wise?
  2.  And is it acceptable in terms of performance (since Toolforge is not 
using Wikimedia's CDN)?

[1] 
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E4%BA%92%E5%8A%A9%E5%AE%A2%E6%A0%88/%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF#%E7%94%9F%E5%83%BB%E5%AD%97webfont
[2] 
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E4%BA%92%E5%8A%A9%E5%AE%A2%E6%A0%88/%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF#%E4%BB%8B%E7%BB%8D%EF%BC%9AWebFont-ZH%E6%9C%8D%E5%8A%A1%E5%8F%8A%E5%B0%8F%E5%B7%A5%E5%85%B7

Best regards,
diskdance
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