Hi Daniel et al.!

First, let me thank you for your detailed reply.

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Daniel Kinzler <[email protected]>wrote:

> To clarify my position in this: I'm Wikimedia germany's tech guy [and Pavel
> is ED]


Understood.


> Gerald A wrote:
> > DE/EU, does it have to be managed, does it have to be a single server?)
> I'm
> > just looking at what might be possible.
>
> It doesn't matter where the server is located. WMDE offers to reimburse the
> person paying for the server. We will not assume any responsibility for its
> operation, or the projects running on it, or the content on the machine.
>

Ok, fair enough. I did go through the page on Meta, and there was a
reference to
"don't commit beyond 3 months". Is this an experiment for 3 months, or is it
to be
bit off in quarterly chunks? I just don't want to spend a lot of effort on
something
that will only have a 3 month lifespan.


>  > a) Wiki Campus Radio, and experiments with Voice and Voice Products. I
> was

> involved in a number of Wiki Campus Radio experiments, and facilitated the
> > sessions and the raw capture of the voice. Other participants edited
> them,
> > and they were available in various formats to listen to. As the
> > hardware/software we were using was on loan, some possibilities for
> on-demand
> > capture/listening weren't there.
>
> The money question is, as always: how does wikiversity (or any wikimedia
> project) benefit from this project? And how does the project benefit from
> the
> sandbox server?
>

Ok, we're moving the ball forward now. :)
The "WCR Sessions" had (and will have) a twofold benefit. First, it was a
learning project
in itself, finding out what needed to be done from a technical perspective,
and then putting
it together; and the sessions were information sessions, meant to bring
together various parts of the learning community. We had participants "call
in" worldwide, so from that perspective, I think it was successful.


> > As for b), would a "formal report" be required, or would a summary (maybe
> > with more details) suffice? How often would be considered "regular"?
>
> Monthly would be good. No big deal if you miss a month every now and then.
> Doesn't need to be formal, just an informative sentence or two. We just
> want to
> know what's happening.
>

Ok. I think we're coming up with guidelines, which I'm happy to enforce. In
my mind,
there will be a monthly report on all projects. Individual projects MUST
report in at
least every other month, and MAY report every month. If a project doesn't
hit it's
MUST report, it is temporarily suspended until it is brought up to date.
If we have this as part of the signup for a project, we can make it clear
that the
reporting is part of the project deal and hopefully won't have to run after
the contribs
too much.


> No, please add all projects you are willing to take care of. It doesn't
> make
> sense to rent a server for a single project anyway.
>

Agreed. Is there a minimum # you guys are looking to start with? I'm willing
to help out, to the limits of my time availability, with a number of
projects, but I'd like to see a few others step up and champion projects
too. Project "leads" don't have to be technical to start a project and write
the "progress" reports -- but they'll need to get someone to commit to
helping out on that side.


> I would like to have a dedicated contact person for the sandbox server.
> This
> person should take care that WMDE gets a monthly report about which
> projects are
> active on the server, which are idle or have died, etc. A sentence or two
> per
> project is sufficient. Who writes the report, how it is compiled, I don't
> care,
> I just don#t want to have to deal with 6 people every month about
> reporting.
>

Understood. I think it's best if we have a "primary" contact person (and
perhaps an alternate, just so people can go to the bathroom/do a
vacation/take a wikibreak). 6 people are too much, and if I were in your
shoes it would hurt my head.

I still have a few questions that I'd like clarified, but I think I could be
the person that moves this forward. Now, we need more projects and project
leaders to make this practical.

Thanks,
Gerald.
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