At 06:13 AM 4/30/2005, Hugh Gundersen typed:
However, phone and internet purchases are usually Ok as the vendor only has
your card number and not your PIN which you NEVER tell anyone.  His card
company will either verify or deny the sale on number + address + name (+
credit) so still relatively safe as they won't know your PIN so can't clone
the card.

With WiFi cameras these days that's not even safe. Most convenience & grocery stores the customer swipes their own card so it never leaves their hands but that doesn't keep some one from peering over your shoulder either with their eyeballs or a camera. The only truly safe way is not to have any CC, ain't that right Bernie ? ;-)



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Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
<http://www.wavijo.com>


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