On 12 Jun 2006 at 11:57, Gary VanderMolen wrote:

> Vista's default user account (the one created during the install)
> is a member of the administrator group, but is not THE
> administrator.

That's the way XP/Home works.  Bad idea, IMO.

> .. The real administrator account is difficult to get to.

Same as for XP/Home.

> Furthermore, the default account runs at a security privilege level
> of an ordinary user, so when anything 'administrative' needs to
> be done, a prompt pops up requesting consent for temporary elevation
> to administrator level.

I dont' understand this part: are you saying that the *ONLY* additional 
security that Vista provides [in its normal setup] is to require the user 
to click on "OK" in a dialogue???  That's not a lot better than having no 
security at all.  And a meta question: how is that implemented?  I guess 
by some serious changes in the ACL/policy setups so that instead of 
allowing the "Administrators" *group* [which is the case now], it'll only 
include the "Administrator" account...  Better than now, but still not as 
good as it should/could be.

> .. If you are running from a non-privileged
> user account, a different prompt will come up, requesting login 
> with the administrator password.

YAY!!  Exactly right.  Now if only they made *THAT* be the default user 
acct things would be a lot better...

Thanks for the info!!

Do you know if there are any additional tools to provide auditing and 
security setup?  [so that, for example, if you're trying to run some app 
and it keeps claiming you need admin privileges to run it, you can:
   1) figure out *why* and then that would allow you to
   2) adjust the appropriate ACL/policy to allow your user to do what
      needs doing [assuming you want to allow it, of course..:o)]

/Bernie\

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