Hi Wayne,

On Sunday 08 October 2006 14:47, Wayne Johnson Inscribed Thus:
> At 05:06 AM 10/8/2006, Gaffer typed:
> >How do you know that the "Modern AV" is getting its updates from a
> >genuine source ?
> >Can you verify that it is ?
> >Do you actually check ?
>
> Yes, yes, & yes.

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> Ah but it's still after the bug or bugs has been discovered & if the
> end luser decides to renew the subscription or not but they still
> have to blame someone else.  I get this line all the time from
> supposed security experts saying that anything that uses definitions
> or a black list that needs updating is no darned good. Sure it's only
> as good as far as it goes but that doesn't mean we have to stop
> surfing or emailing. There are other security things we can do such
> as install a NATed Router that does a world of good but that doesn't
> prevent us from shooting ourselves in the foot it's MSFT's fault that
> we can't control our mouse & it was the mouse's fault that we surfed
> to some triple X rated site where all the nasties come out & play
> [pun may or may not have been intended]
>
> Security is best applied in layers & not all the security has to be
> built into the OS 
> 
>        ----------+----------
>     Wayne D. Johnson
> Ashland, OH, USA 44805
> <http://www.wavijo.com>

In general I agree with you !

My comments were aimed at the complacency created by the "Application 
does it all so you don't have to" approach !   In this instance,  how 
does the user really know that the updates are coming from a genuine 
source ?   and not from a bogus one ?

The DNS could have been tampered with and the IP hijacked !  A Trojan 
could have altered the applications data source !   A similar scheme to 
the one that changes dial up numbers to premium rate ones !

Few users would have a clue !  As you rightly say....  Its after the 
fact !

-- 
Best Regards:
     Derrick.
     Pontefract Linux Users Group.
     plug at play-net.co.uk

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