Hi Gordon It makes me wonder if now that Jaws is writing their stuff for home and business if things will change. I know they said as of 16 you were still going to pay for the add-ons but I'm thinking at some point they may go ahead and write it completely and to Josh pro. I'm going to retain my dross Pro and probably pick up an actual paid copy of wind was. I prefer eloquence over the other speech since anyway. So it'll be interesting to see what actually happens. I will be very interested to hear you're out comes with window eyes. I will still probably pick up a copy of window eyes just have one it's always good to have a few cents around I had looked into the dolphin access I've heard they're pretty far behind as well in the accessibility for network Edmonds
Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 28, 2014, at 7:29 AM, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Mike > > With Window-Eyes version 6 and later, Remote Access via Citrix or Microsoft > Remote Terminal services is built-in, if you own a Professional license to > the product. > > Actually though, as I understand it, Window-Eyes is being given its long > overdue total rewrite, which will obviously be a paid upgrade when it is > released. But finally, it seems, GW Micro has acknowledge the horrendous > latency introduced by Window-Eyes with its huge footprint. If they are now > producing true 64-bit code, I am sure that we will see dramatically improved > responsiveness throughout the entire product, not just with remote sessions. > > But I am about to see whether or not I can install it into my Windows 8.1 > native system, as I only have a full setup of Window-Eyes 8.2 and the current > version, the one being distributed free of charge, is version 8.4. Anybody > who owns a license to Windows 8.1 and/or Microsoft Office 2010 or later > automatically qualifies for a free license to Window-Eyes. I will contact GW > Micro as I am keen to retain my registered serial number if possible. > > Kindest regards > > <--- Gordon Smith ---> > <[email protected]> > > Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; > Proudly Providing Braille And Alternative Format Transcription Services, Plus > I.T Help & Support To The Staff And Students Of the Visually Impaired > Department at: > Sunnyside Academy > Manor Farm Way > Colby Newham > Middlesbrough > Cleveland > United Kingdom > > ============================== > > > > > Telephone: > > United Kingdom: Free Phone: > 0800 8620538 > > United Kingdom Geographic: > 01133 280547 > Mobile: > +44 7907 823971 > > Europe and other non-specified: > +44 1642 688095 > > United States Of America And Canada: > +1 646 9151493 > Or: > +1 209 436 9443 > > Australasia: > +61 38 8205930 > Or: > +61 39 0284505 > > Fax: > +44 1642 365123 > > Follow Us On Twitter: > <http://twitter.com/maciosaccess> > > Skype: > <skype:mac-access-dot-net?call> > > ------------------------------ > > > > > On 26 Jul 2014, at 22:58, Mike Stopka <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Gordon > > I am curious to see what your point of view is if you get when doors to work > do you have to pay extra for the RDP in Citrix access I need to do that with > my jaws as well so I will see what happens I'm going to have the money to > upgrade to and at the features I'm running 15 and I get 16 anyway but will > review my SMEs when I get the chance and by the Adams just have them figured > it would be better for job's point of view anyway > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 26, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Mike >> >> Were it not for the fact that Window-Eyes 8.2 won’t install under Windows >> 8.1 natively, allowing you to upgrade to 8.4, my problem would be solved. I >> have it installed on my Windows 7 system, but the last time I tried it on >> 8.1 I got a lot of errors. >> >> I’ll give it another go actually, just to be sure. Jaws remote access >> technologies cost £125.00 GBP per license which, presumably, means that you >> can only use it to access similarly licensed servers. Citrix is natively >> slow, Mike, even without a screen-reader. It’s old technology which should >> have been scrapped years ago and re-written. Microsoft Terminal Services do >> not have a large footprint and they are much much faster, allowing you to do >> most or all the things you can do under Citrix, apart from having access to >> Main Frame computers. >> >> I shall go get my 8.2 Window-Eyes CD now and give that a go again. >> >> Kindest regards >> >> <--- Gordon Smith ---> >> <[email protected]> >> >> Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; >> Proudly Providing Braille And Alternative Format Transcription Services, >> Plus I.T Help & Support To The Staff And Students Of the Visually Impaired >> Department at: >> Sunnyside Academy >> Manor Farm Way >> Colby Newham >> Middlesbrough >> Cleveland >> United Kingdom >> f >> On 23 Jul 2014, at 16:31, Mike Stopka <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Gordon, in the jaws you do have to buy the Citrix and remote access and >> NVDA they still have not implemented anything as of yet I know it can be >> done but it's very slow and that's all very bleeding edge code but as far as >> I know it's not she implemented into NVDA yet I was just looking into the >> same thing for a home server here's well and I'm can have to buy the Citrix >> and the draws remote access lucky for me I got into a position where I could >> do so I prefer Johnsarbor NVDA anyway but still using PDA >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 23, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Greetings again my fellow enthusiasts! >>> >>> While it is true that NVDA provides very good accessibility to most things >>> Windows, I am still finding myself using Jaws more and more. However, what >>> I would like to know is how you use remote access services under NVDA? >>> With Jaws, I’m going to have to purchase the add-on that gives you access >>> to remote terminal series and Citrix. On that last point, does anybody >>> know from where you need to download the Citrix server module? I gather it >>> needs to be installed before JAWS, is that correct? if so, presumably one >>> needs to remove and then reinstall JAWS itself, but retain user and shared >>> settings, correct? >>> >>> As for Jaws itself, I am finding it extremely stable and robust for the >>> most part. I’m in the process of installing a new system which I bought >>> bare-bones a few weeks ago. It’s going to be used primarily as a server >>> for various functions, but Jaws will be used on that machine as Window-Eyes >>> doesn’t seem to want to install, and NVDA is not as responsive as JAWS. >>> >>> Sorry for the ramble. >>> >>> Kindest regards >>> >>> <--- Gordon Smith ---> >>> <[email protected]> >>> >>> Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; >>> Proudly Providing Braille And Alternative Format Transcription Services, >>> Plus I.T Help & Support To The Staff And Students Of the Visually Impaired >>> Department at: >>> Sunnyside Academy >>> Manor Farm Way >>> Colby Newham >>> Middlesbrough >>> Cleveland >>> United Kingdom >>> >>> ============================== >>> >>> >>> >>> Telephone: >>> >>> United Kingdom: Free Phone: >>> 0800 8620538 >>> >>> United Kingdom Geographic: >>> 01133 280547 >>> Mobile: >>> +44 7907 823971 >>> >>> Europe and other non-specified: >>> +44 1642 688095 >>> >>> United States Of America And Canada: >>> +1 646 9151493 >>> Or: >>> +1 209 436 9443 >>> >>> Australasia: >>> +61 38 8205930 >>> Or: >>> +61 39 0284505 >>> >>> Fax: >>> +44 1642 365123 >>> >>> Follow Us On Twitter: >>> <http://twitter.com/maciosaccess> >>> >>> Skype: >>> <skype:mac-access-dot-net?call> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ======================================= >>> >>> To post to this group, please send your message to: >>> [email protected] >>> The Windows-Access E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free >>> >>> To modify your subscription options, please visit your personalise >>> subscriber options page, located at >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/windows-access >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Windows-Access forum >>> at either of the following websites: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/windows-access/index.html >>> Or: >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> >>> >>> you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. 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