> I strongly agree with what both of you have suggested; I particularly
> think Francois is correct to suggest that we resolve some of the
> hierarchy/name space issues with keywords.

I have one problem with keywords is that I do not trust anyone to enter
'correct' informations :-) IMHO, the more directed the 'user' is, the better
(or else, all the burden is reported on the database maintainer who will
need to rewrite 90 % of the submissions).

I am not against giving the user the possibility to add 'free form'
keywords, but all informations that we need to generate pages should come
from 'trusted' sources.

> Also, I think it's vital that in addition to a trusted application
> database maintainer role, that we also have many people
> who can be trusted maintainers for a specific application.
> To that end, the apps db should have a web page
> element ala source forge.

What do you mean by 'web page element' ?

> Agree.  But I vote we simplify drastically to use just keywords, and
> normalize, something like this:
> 
>     Vendor DB:
>          Vendor ID
>          Vendor Name
>          Vendor URL

I agree with that :-)

>     Application Family DB:
>          App ID
>          App Name
>          Vendor ID
>           Keywords
>           App description (HTML)
>           App web page (URL, e.g. www.winehq.com/juno)

Here I start to disagree :-) 

First, I do not think the application description should be in HTML.  But as
this is a detail, and does not impact in anyway the database organization, I
will let it pass for now :-)

Secondly, another way to fix the Activision / iD 'problem', we could add a
'ReleasedBy' relation instead of putting the 'Vendor ID' in the Application
Family table (ie Quake 3 would have two 'vendors', 'iD' and 'Activision').

For the multiple name problem, adding a 'Aka' relation and an
'AlternateName' table would also solve the problem (instead of putting it in
the 'keyword' area). Same thing for the 'genre' (creating an 'IsOfGenre'
table and a list of GenreIDs).

And by the application web page, I suppose you speak about the 'official'
web page and not a Wine specific page on this application ? (I was a bit
confused by your example).

>    App Version DB
>           App ID
>           App Version ID
>           Version Name
>           Keywords
>           App description (HTML)
>           Version Web page (URL)
>            Project ID in the application database
>                (lets user enter relay trace/static analysis trace to
>                  generate list of APIs used by this app)
>            (Score data; built nightly)
>            (Bugzilla list; built nightly)

What is your Project ID here ? I did not see any other Project table
anywhere :-) I think you meant 'in the API database'. And I did not exactly
understand what a Project is in the API database :-)

And the HTML for 'installation' instructions and 'usage' instructions should
be in this table. Or if we do not want do separate both, a single HTML under
the responsability of the app maintainer (or was that your 'App description'
field ?).

The problem here is how you manage application without a 'version' (like
most games) ? Should an automatic 'App Version' without any name be created
for each new application Family ?

>     User Experience DB
>             App version ID
>             User comments (HTML)
>             Test platform (optional)
>             Wine vintage (optional)
>             Date entered (so it can expire)
>             Username (same as bugzilla/API db)
>             ~/.wine/config file used (optional)
>             Score
>             Bugzilla bug ids

Well, I do not find that Wine vintage should be optional... It's as
important IMO as the date entered. When one sees how many questions are
asked for ages old Wine version, I would prefer the user having to check his
Wine version before entering a report.

And there would still be the problem of scoring. Should be we have a single
note or separate the scoring (on UI correctness, speed, usability, ...) ?

>     Keywords DB (autogenerated)

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