On Jun 29, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:


I'm really not sure what there is to discuss. According to the NDA, you
cannot say much of anything publicly.

Hi Dan,
You might want to take some time and read the Apache JCP documentation at http://www.apache.org/jcp/

In particular:

"Traditionally, projects using Apache's TCKs have been very strict and closed about what information could be discussed in public forums. Over the years, this approach has been gradually relaxed by some projects with no adverse affects on the community, the general TCK testing process, or the ASF's commitment to protect the confidential information entrusted to it.

Therefore, the following should be deemed the guiding policy for dealing with TCKs from the ASF :

Projects must keep the official TCK materials confidential. Use your best judgement. For the elimination of doubt, public discussion about using the TCK, bugs found while using the TCK, and any project-created frameworks or assisting software or documentation that do not reveal the official confidential TCK material is acceptable."


Thus, nothing TCK related goes here.
There is a private list specifically for that:

[email protected]

First that I've seen mention of that list. If we're expecting WINK project members to use it, have we communicated this information to them?


Everyone doing TCK work needs to subscribe to that if they are planning to
share anything.

Also, we are NOT allowed to say anything like "we're 80% there" or "10 tests left" or whatever. It either is 100% passing or it's not compliant. That's
all that can be said publicly.

That may be Sun's perspective on the matter. However, it's not clear to me from the terms of the NDA that the number of tests or percentage passed is "confidential information" which is not to be disclosed.

--kevan

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