The way that I was thinking that a user would use it would be to add it 
directly in their Application sub-class if they so choose, not by 
modifying the wink-providers file. They would only do this if they knew 
they were working with RSS (and not plain JAXB or Atom) and wanted to 
simplify the conversion.  If you still don't think this is an okay 
approach then I'm fine removing the provider.  I already checked in your 
previous patches (minus the wink-providers change).  If we want to remove 
the provider I can do so when I upload your latest patches that include 
the javadoc.

- Jesse Ramos





From:
Shiva Kumar H R <[email protected]>
To:
[email protected]
Date:
04/20/2010 01:04 AM
Subject:
Re: Map RSS to Syndication Object Model



Thanks again Jesse for looking into this.

WINK-149-new-part2.patch has the modification to
wink-common/src/main/resources/META-INF/core/wink-providers towards the 
end
of the patch file. But as you suggest, this modification to wink-providers
file should definitely be removed.

Regarding committing the provider without updating the wink-providers 
file,
I am concerned about the way users might add it to the list of providers. 
In
WINK-149-new-part2.patch, if you observe the modification I have made to
wink-providers file, you will see that this new provider comes before JAXB 
&
Atom providers, thereby giving more preference to JAXB & Atom providers 
than
this new provider. (I realized this by reading the comments at the top of
wink-providers file, where it says "#   3. Order of the providers. The 
later
provider was added, the higher priority it has." ). If by mistake, users 
add
it in such a way that this new provider has higher priority than Atom
provider, then I see that many of the unit tests fail! hinting the mess up
that this new provider has caused. (And I am sorry, I should have 
mentioned
about this before itself.)

So I strongly feel that we drop the idea of adding this new provider and
request the users to explicitly handle the mapping. Hence I request that
only the following patches be committed:
 * WINK-149-new-part1.patch
 * WINK-149-new-part3.patch
 * WINK-149-new-part4.patch

Thanks,
Shiva Kumar H R

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Jesse A Ramos <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Shiva,
>
> How about we go ahead and commit all your patches, making the provider
> optional?  I didn't see in any of your patches
> wink-common/src/main/resources/META-INF/core/wink-providers being 
modified
> (let me know if I missed it) which would have made the provider a system
> provider.  If we commit the provider but don't update the wink-providers
> file, we avoid introducing the issue you raise by default but still make
> the provider available to someone who may want to use it.
>
> -- Jesse
>
>
>
>
>
> From:
> Shiva Kumar H R <[email protected]>
> To:
> [email protected]
> Date:
> 04/14/2010 09:55 AM
> Subject:
> Re: Map RSS to Syndication Object Model
>
>
>
> I again need some help here. I have added 4 patches for WINK-149 (
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WINK-149) :
>
> 1. WINK-149-new-part1.patch : adds the mapping from RSS to Syndication
> Object Model and vice-versa.
> 2. WINK-149-new-part2.patch : adds a new JAX-RS provider (which is where 
I
> see a problem as explained below).
> 3. WINK-149-new-part3.patch : adds a Junit testcase to test RSS to
> SyndFeed
> mapping and vice versa.
> 4. WINK-149-new-part4.patch : adds a new client example in
> \wink-examples\client\ReadRSS-client that demonstrates the RSS mapping
> into
> Syndication Object Model.
>
> In WINK-149-new-part2.patch, I have added a new JAX-RS Provider which
> takes
> an incoming text/xml or application/xml and converts it into SyndFeed. I
> am
> wondering if we really need this. The problem that I see is: RSS doesn't
> have a special content-type header the way ATOM has
> (application/atom+xml).
> So all RSS docs will be served under the general content-type of
> application/xml or text/xml. And sometimes even Atom docs could be 
served
> under this same content type.
>
> So can't we request our Wink users to explicitly map the RssFeed into
> SyndFeed, the way I have done in WINK-149-new-part4.patch which is as
> below:
>
>            // perform a GET on the resource. The resource will be
> returned
> as an Rss object
>            RssFeed rssFeed =
> feedResource.accept(MediaType.APPLICATION_XML).get(RssFeed.class);
>
>            // Map RSS into SyndFeed
>            SyndFeed syndFeed = new SyndFeed();
>            syndFeed = rssFeed.toSynd(syndFeed);
>
>            // Now access RSS using SyndFeed APIs
>
> The only advantage that I see when the new JAX-RS provider in
> WINK-149-new-part2.patch is committed, is that the client code will look
> as
> below:
>            // perform a GET on the resource. The resource will be
> returned
> as an SyndFeed object
>            SyndFeed syndFeed =
> feedResource.accept(MediaType.APPLICATION_XML).get(SyndFeed.class);
>            // Now access RSS using SyndFeed APIs
>
> Please suggest which approach we should follow (i.e. whether we must
> commit
> WINK-149-new-part2.patch or not).
>
> Thanks,
> Shiva Kumar H R
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Shiva Kumar H R <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > I have uploaded new patches onto WINK-149 (
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WINK-149) based on the initial
> code
> > developed by Jesse.
> >
> > The mapping is documented in
> >
>
> 
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WINK/Mapping+RSS+into+Syndication+Object+Model(the
<
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WINK/Mapping+RSS+into+Syndication+Object+Model%28the
>
> wiki seems to be down now).
> >
> > Please commit the new patches.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Shiva Kumar H R
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Shiva Kumar H R
> <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Jesse,
> >> I have created the following (temporary) wiki page for capturing this
> >> mapping:
> >>
> >>
>
> 
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WINK/Mapping+RSS+into+Syndication+Object+Model

>
> >>
> >> And I am sorry, I haven't yet looked into the code. Will do that 
soon.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Shiva Kumar H R
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Jesse A Ramos <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've uploaded a patch with my changes to JIRA WINK-149 (
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WINK-149).
> >>>
> >>> I wanted to give folks an opportunity to review this before I
> committed
> >>> as
> >>> I wasn't sure if I did the mappings 100% correctly. In addition to 
the
> >>> question below, there were a few other areas that I wasn't sure 
about.
> >>>
> >>> Here is how I mapped things from the syndication Object model to the
> RSS
> >>> model:
> >>>
> >>> SyndFeed --> RssFeed/RssChannel (Mapping a SyndFeed to an RssFeed
> results
> >>> in an RssFeed with version 2.0. The attribute mapping is done in
> >>> RssChannel)
> >>> ------------------------------------------------------
> >>> SyndFeed.base --> RssChannel.link
> >>> SyndFeed.generator --> RssChannel.generator
> >>> SyndFeed.icon --> RssChannel.image
> >>> SyndFeed.lang --> RssChannel.language
> >>> SyndFeed.rights --> RssChannel.copyright
> >>> SyndFeed.title --> RssChannel.title
> >>> SyndFeed.entries/SyndFeed.links --> RssChannel.items
> >>>
> >>> SyndEntry --> RssItem
> >>> ---------------------------------
> >>> SyndEntry.authors (first item) --> RssItem.author
> >>> SyndEntry.base --> RssItem.link
> >>> SyndEntry.published --> RssItem.pubDate
> >>> SyndEntry.title --> RssItem.title
> >>> SyndEntry.summary --> RssItem.description
> >>> SyndEntry.id --> RssItem.guid
> >>>
> >>> SyndLink --> RssItem
> >>> --------------------------------
> >>> SyndLink.title --> RssItem.title
> >>> SyndLink.base --> RssItem.link
> >>>
> >>> SyndCategory --> RssCategory
> >>> -----------------------------------------------
> >>> SyndCategory.term --> RssCategory.domain
> >>> SyndCategory.label --> RssCategory.content
> >>>
> >>> Anything not listed here was not mapped. Any feedback/corrections 
are
> >>> greatly appreciated.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From:
> >>> Jesse A Ramos/Austin/i...@ibmus
> >>> To:
> >>> [email protected]
> >>> Date:
> >>> 03/22/2010 11:08 AM
> >>> Subject:
> >>> Re: Map RSS to Syndication Object Model
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I went ahead and starting working on this.
> >>>
> >>> I have a question regarding the mapping of links in a SyndFeed. 
Would
> >>> these map to RssItems?  Currently I'm mapping SyndEnty's to RssItems
> but
> >>> wasn't sure if I should do the same for links.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the clarification.  I'll post what I've mapped on the
> >>> syndication side to the RSS side as there are other items I'm not 
100%
> >>> sure about when I'm done just to make sure that it's correct.
> >>>
> >>> -- Jesse
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From:
> >>> Shiva Kumar H R <[email protected]>
> >>> To:
> >>> [email protected]
> >>> Date:
> >>> 03/18/2010 08:18 PM
> >>> Subject:
> >>> Re: Map RSS to Syndication Object Model
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks Jesse. I will look further into this.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Shiva Kumar H R
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Jesse A Ramos <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Hi Shiva,
> >>> >
> >>> > I took a look at this yesterday to see if I could figure out what
> >>> needed
> >>> > to be done.  This is what I found.
> >>> >
> >>> > In org.apache.wink.common.model.atom the ATOM Object model classes
> have
> >>> > constructors that accept the Objects from
> >>> > org.apache.wink.common.model.synd (ex: the constructor
> >>> AtomFeed(SyndFeed))
> >>> > which allow the syndication Objects to be converted to ATOM 
Objects.
> >>> > Similarly, there are adapter classes under
> >>> > org.apache.wink.server.internal.entity.html that allow a 
conversion
> to
> >>> > html.
> >>> >
> >>> > Additionally, there are provides (AtomFeedSyndFeedProvider,
> >>> > AtomEntrySyndEntryProvider, HtmlSyndFeedProvider, and
> >>> > HtmlSyndEntryProvider) which allow syndication Objects to be
> serialized
> >>> to
> >>> > those other formats and which make use of the adapters.
> >>> >
> >>> > I believe that the JIRA was created to add similar support to the
> RSS
> >>> > Object model.
> >>> >
> >>> > -- Jesse
> >>> >
> >>> > >I need some help in resolving JIRA
> >>> > >https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WINK-149 "Map RSS to
> >>> Syndication
> >>> > >Object Model". I had opened this JIRA after a suggestion on dev
> list.
> >>> > >However I must acknowledge that I never understood the
> need/importance
> >>> of
> >>> > >this.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >Can someone help me by throwing some light on this? What is
> expected
> >>> and
> >>> > how
> >>> > >would that be useful?
> >>> > >
> >>> > >Thanks,
> >>> > >Shiva Kumar H R
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>
>


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