:-) Many many thanks Jesse. (I thought the minor modification that I made to
WINK-149-new-part4.patch might go unnoticed, but you have been generous
enough to commit that as well :-) )

Thanks,
Shiva Kumar H R

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Jesse A Ramos <[email protected]> wrote:

> I applied patches 1, 3, and 4 and removed the provider that was previously
> checked in.
>
>
>
>
>
> From:
> Shiva Kumar H R <[email protected]>
> To:
> [email protected]
> Date:
> 04/20/2010 10:03 AM
> Subject:
> Re: Map RSS to Syndication Object Model
>
>
>
> Thanks Jesse for the committing the code.
>
> I am not very sure about the side impact when users add the new provider
> in
> their Application sub-class. Hence my +1 to remove this new provider.
>
> And please commit the java-doc comments as well.
>
> Thanks,
> Shiva Kumar H R
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Jesse A Ramos <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The way that I was thinking that a user would use it would be to add it
> > directly in their Application sub-class if they so choose, not by
> > modifying the wink-providers file. They would only do this if they knew
> > they were working with RSS (and not plain JAXB or Atom) and wanted to
> > simplify the conversion.  If you still don't think this is an okay
> > approach then I'm fine removing the provider.  I already checked in your
> > previous patches (minus the wink-providers change).  If we want to
> remove
> > the provider I can do so when I upload your latest patches that include
> > the javadoc.
> >
> > - Jesse Ramos
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From:
> > Shiva Kumar H R <[email protected]>
> > To:
> > [email protected]
> > Date:
> > 04/20/2010 01:04 AM
> > Subject:
> > Re: Map RSS to Syndication Object Model
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks again Jesse for looking into this.
> >
> > WINK-149-new-part2.patch has the modification to
> > wink-common/src/main/resources/META-INF/core/wink-providers towards the
> > end
> > of the patch file. But as you suggest, this modification to
> wink-providers
> > file should definitely be removed.
> >
> > Regarding committing the provider without updating the wink-providers
> > file,
> > I am concerned about the way users might add it to the list of
> providers.
> > In
> > WINK-149-new-part2.patch, if you observe the modification I have made to
> > wink-providers file, you will see that this new provider comes before
> JAXB
> > &
> > Atom providers, thereby giving more preference to JAXB & Atom providers
> > than
> > this new provider. (I realized this by reading the comments at the top
> of
> > wink-providers file, where it says "#   3. Order of the providers. The
> > later
> > provider was added, the higher priority it has." ). If by mistake, users
> > add
> > it in such a way that this new provider has higher priority than Atom
> > provider, then I see that many of the unit tests fail! hinting the mess
> up
> > that this new provider has caused. (And I am sorry, I should have
> > mentioned
> > about this before itself.)
> >
> > So I strongly feel that we drop the idea of adding this new provider and
> > request the users to explicitly handle the mapping. Hence I request that
> > only the following patches be committed:
> >  * WINK-149-new-part1.patch
> >  * WINK-149-new-part3.patch
> >  * WINK-149-new-part4.patch
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Shiva Kumar H R
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Jesse A Ramos <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Shiva,
> > >
> > > How about we go ahead and commit all your patches, making the provider
> > > optional?  I didn't see in any of your patches
> > > wink-common/src/main/resources/META-INF/core/wink-providers being
> > modified
> > > (let me know if I missed it) which would have made the provider a
> system
> > > provider.  If we commit the provider but don't update the
> wink-providers
> > > file, we avoid introducing the issue you raise by default but still
> make
> > > the provider available to someone who may want to use it.
> > >
> > > -- Jesse
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From:
> > > Shiva Kumar H R <[email protected]>
> > > To:
> > > [email protected]
> > > Date:
> > > 04/14/2010 09:55 AM
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: Map RSS to Syndication Object Model
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I again need some help here. I have added 4 patches for WINK-149 (
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WINK-149) :
> > >
> > > 1. WINK-149-new-part1.patch : adds the mapping from RSS to Syndication
> > > Object Model and vice-versa.
> > > 2. WINK-149-new-part2.patch : adds a new JAX-RS provider (which is
> where
> > I
> > > see a problem as explained below).
> > > 3. WINK-149-new-part3.patch : adds a Junit testcase to test RSS to
> > > SyndFeed
> > > mapping and vice versa.
> > > 4. WINK-149-new-part4.patch : adds a new client example in
> > > \wink-examples\client\ReadRSS-client that demonstrates the RSS mapping
> > > into
> > > Syndication Object Model.
> > >
> > > In WINK-149-new-part2.patch, I have added a new JAX-RS Provider which
> > > takes
> > > an incoming text/xml or application/xml and converts it into SyndFeed.
> I
> > > am
> > > wondering if we really need this. The problem that I see is: RSS
> doesn't
> > > have a special content-type header the way ATOM has
> > > (application/atom+xml).
> > > So all RSS docs will be served under the general content-type of
> > > application/xml or text/xml. And sometimes even Atom docs could be
> > served
> > > under this same content type.
> > >
> > > So can't we request our Wink users to explicitly map the RssFeed into
> > > SyndFeed, the way I have done in WINK-149-new-part4.patch which is as
> > > below:
> > >
> > >            // perform a GET on the resource. The resource will be
> > > returned
> > > as an Rss object
> > >            RssFeed rssFeed =
> > > feedResource.accept(MediaType.APPLICATION_XML).get(RssFeed.class);
> > >
> > >            // Map RSS into SyndFeed
> > >            SyndFeed syndFeed = new SyndFeed();
> > >            syndFeed = rssFeed.toSynd(syndFeed);
> > >
> > >            // Now access RSS using SyndFeed APIs
> > >
> > > The only advantage that I see when the new JAX-RS provider in
> > > WINK-149-new-part2.patch is committed, is that the client code will
> look
> > > as
> > > below:
> > >            // perform a GET on the resource. The resource will be
> > > returned
> > > as an SyndFeed object
> > >            SyndFeed syndFeed =
> > > feedResource.accept(MediaType.APPLICATION_XML).get(SyndFeed.class);
> > >            // Now access RSS using SyndFeed APIs
> > >
> > > Please suggest which approach we should follow (i.e. whether we must
> > > commit
> > > WINK-149-new-part2.patch or not).
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Shiva Kumar H R
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Shiva Kumar H R <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have uploaded new patches onto WINK-149 (
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WINK-149) based on the initial
> > > code
> > > > developed by Jesse.
> > > >
> > > > The mapping is documented in
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WINK/Mapping+RSS+into+Syndication+Object+Model(the<http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WINK/Mapping+RSS+into+Syndication+Object+Model%28the>
> <
>
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WINK/Mapping+RSS+into+Syndication+Object+Model%28the
> >
> > <
> >
> >
>
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WINK/Mapping+RSS+into+Syndication+Object+Model%28the
>
> > >
> > > wiki seems to be down now).
> > > >
> > > > Please commit the new patches.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Shiva Kumar H R
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Shiva Kumar H R
> > > <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Jesse,
> > > >> I have created the following (temporary) wiki page for capturing
> this
> > > >> mapping:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WINK/Mapping+RSS+into+Syndication+Object+Model
>
> >
> > >
> > > >>
> > > >> And I am sorry, I haven't yet looked into the code. Will do that
> > soon.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Shiva Kumar H R
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Jesse A Ramos <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I've uploaded a patch with my changes to JIRA WINK-149 (
> > > >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WINK-149).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I wanted to give folks an opportunity to review this before I
> > > committed
> > > >>> as
> > > >>> I wasn't sure if I did the mappings 100% correctly. In addition to
> > the
> > > >>> question below, there were a few other areas that I wasn't sure
> > about.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Here is how I mapped things from the syndication Object model to
> the
> > > RSS
> > > >>> model:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> SyndFeed --> RssFeed/RssChannel (Mapping a SyndFeed to an RssFeed
> > > results
> > > >>> in an RssFeed with version 2.0. The attribute mapping is done in
> > > >>> RssChannel)
> > > >>> ------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>> SyndFeed.base --> RssChannel.link
> > > >>> SyndFeed.generator --> RssChannel.generator
> > > >>> SyndFeed.icon --> RssChannel.image
> > > >>> SyndFeed.lang --> RssChannel.language
> > > >>> SyndFeed.rights --> RssChannel.copyright
> > > >>> SyndFeed.title --> RssChannel.title
> > > >>> SyndFeed.entries/SyndFeed.links --> RssChannel.items
> > > >>>
> > > >>> SyndEntry --> RssItem
> > > >>> ---------------------------------
> > > >>> SyndEntry.authors (first item) --> RssItem.author
> > > >>> SyndEntry.base --> RssItem.link
> > > >>> SyndEntry.published --> RssItem.pubDate
> > > >>> SyndEntry.title --> RssItem.title
> > > >>> SyndEntry.summary --> RssItem.description
> > > >>> SyndEntry.id --> RssItem.guid
> > > >>>
> > > >>> SyndLink --> RssItem
> > > >>> --------------------------------
> > > >>> SyndLink.title --> RssItem.title
> > > >>> SyndLink.base --> RssItem.link
> > > >>>
> > > >>> SyndCategory --> RssCategory
> > > >>> -----------------------------------------------
> > > >>> SyndCategory.term --> RssCategory.domain
> > > >>> SyndCategory.label --> RssCategory.content
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Anything not listed here was not mapped. Any feedback/corrections
> > are
> > > >>> greatly appreciated.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> From:
> > > >>> Jesse A Ramos/Austin/i...@ibmus
> > > >>> To:
> > > >>> [email protected]
> > > >>> Date:
> > > >>> 03/22/2010 11:08 AM
> > > >>> Subject:
> > > >>> Re: Map RSS to Syndication Object Model
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I went ahead and starting working on this.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I have a question regarding the mapping of links in a SyndFeed.
> > Would
> > > >>> these map to RssItems?  Currently I'm mapping SyndEnty's to
> RssItems
> > > but
> > > >>> wasn't sure if I should do the same for links.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks for the clarification.  I'll post what I've mapped on the
> > > >>> syndication side to the RSS side as there are other items I'm not
> > 100%
> > > >>> sure about when I'm done just to make sure that it's correct.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -- Jesse
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> From:
> > > >>> Shiva Kumar H R <[email protected]>
> > > >>> To:
> > > >>> [email protected]
> > > >>> Date:
> > > >>> 03/18/2010 08:18 PM
> > > >>> Subject:
> > > >>> Re: Map RSS to Syndication Object Model
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Many thanks Jesse. I will look further into this.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks,
> > > >>> Shiva Kumar H R
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Jesse A Ramos <[email protected]>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > Hi Shiva,
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I took a look at this yesterday to see if I could figure out
> what
> > > >>> needed
> > > >>> > to be done.  This is what I found.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > In org.apache.wink.common.model.atom the ATOM Object model
> classes
> > > have
> > > >>> > constructors that accept the Objects from
> > > >>> > org.apache.wink.common.model.synd (ex: the constructor
> > > >>> AtomFeed(SyndFeed))
> > > >>> > which allow the syndication Objects to be converted to ATOM
> > Objects.
> > > >>> > Similarly, there are adapter classes under
> > > >>> > org.apache.wink.server.internal.entity.html that allow a
> > conversion
> > > to
> > > >>> > html.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Additionally, there are provides (AtomFeedSyndFeedProvider,
> > > >>> > AtomEntrySyndEntryProvider, HtmlSyndFeedProvider, and
> > > >>> > HtmlSyndEntryProvider) which allow syndication Objects to be
> > > serialized
> > > >>> to
> > > >>> > those other formats and which make use of the adapters.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I believe that the JIRA was created to add similar support to
> the
> > > RSS
> > > >>> > Object model.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > -- Jesse
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > >I need some help in resolving JIRA
> > > >>> > >https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WINK-149 "Map RSS to
> > > >>> Syndication
> > > >>> > >Object Model". I had opened this JIRA after a suggestion on dev
> > > list.
> > > >>> > >However I must acknowledge that I never understood the
> > > need/importance
> > > >>> of
> > > >>> > >this.
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >Can someone help me by throwing some light on this? What is
> > > expected
> > > >>> and
> > > >>> > how
> > > >>> > >would that be useful?
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >Thanks,
> > > >>> > >Shiva Kumar H R
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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