[Winona Online Democracy] In answer to Dwayne's question about why drugs are so much cheaper in Canada...... Could it be that because in their government run, single payer system that healthcare is rationed and therefore the demand for drugs is low....
Just a thought, no real basis in fact. Greg Fellman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwayne Voegeli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [Winona] Insurance Execs Bribing Democrats AND Republicans? > [Winona Online Democracy] > > (First of all, I aplogize that the mysterious missing e-mails I had sent > over the weekend seemed to reappear from cyberspace limbo. I'm sorry for > clogging up your in boxes with repetitive messages. Others seemed to have > had the same problem. Solar storms? Soviets? Bad e-mail karma?) > > ----- > > Back to John Finn's and Paul Double's E-mails about Health Insurance. > > ----- > > John, I think I read the same article you did about the cash-payment only > doctors. Was it in last week's Wall Street Journal? > > In any event, it is an interesting idea. > > You finished by saying, "the debate over what constitutes a living wage and > which employers are 'good or bad' is muddled by having an employment based > health insurance system." I completely agree. One of the biggest winners > in a single payer system would be small and medium sized business owners > who would get the health care coverage monkey off their backs. > > (There is a great article about the problems that soaring health care costs > are causing between workers and business owners in the Business Section of > the Sunday, November 2, 2003 edition of the Star Tribune. I would have > included the URL but I can not seem to access their archives even though > I'm a subscriber.) > > ----- > > To Paul Double, you are scaring me. We're beginning to agree on a lot when > it comes to health care reform. > > ;-> > > You're also starting to sound like a Teddy Roosevelt Republican. Maybe the > Republic can be saved from the aristocrats who want to turn it into an > Empire after all. > > About elections. You can't seperate health care reform from democratic > reform (read campaign finance reforms). Until and unless the Republicans > and Democrats support the Fair and Clean Election (F.A.C.E.) bill in the > Minnesota Legislature, we will not see real health care reform in the state > because super-big drug and insurance corporations own both parties, at > least the tops of both organizations. > > Publicly funded campaigns first. (they would be voluntary) > > Health care reform that truly benefits the public second. > > Again, why are drugs so much cheaper in Canada in the first place? > > Dwayne Voegeli > > ================== > > > >From: "John N. Finn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Online Democracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:40:24 -0600 > >Status: > > > >[Winona Online Democracy] > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Paul Double" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Online Democracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: 11 novembre, 2003 14:52 > >Subject: FW: [Winona] Insurance Execs Bribing Democrats AND Republicans? > > > > > >................. What maybe will be different in the next two years is the > >fact that the public conservatives, liberals and others appear to be ready > >to partner at > >least on healthcare "solutions". ............. > > > >----- Response ----- > > > >I'm not sure how relevant this is, but I recently read an article about a > >doctor that runs a 'cash at time of treatment' clinic. That is, he accepts > >no insurance or third party payments, thus greatly reducing his paperwork > >shuffling overhead costs. His customers include those lacking insurance, of > >course, but also some that are covered because his fees are often not much > >more that the co-pays they would have had to pay in their plan's network. > > > >Also, it seems to me that the debate over what constitutes a living wage and > >which employers are 'good or bad' is muddled by having an employment based > >health insurance system. > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This message was posted to Winona Online Democracy > >All messages must be signed by the senders actual name. > >No commercial solicitations are allowed on this list. > >To manage your subscription or view the message archives, please visit > >http://mapnp.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/winona > >Any problems or suggestions can be directed to > >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >If you want help on how to contact elected officials, go to the Contact page at > > http://www.winonaonlinedemocracy.org > > > > ------------ > > Dwayne Voegeli > > Winona County Commissioner, District #2 > > (507) 453-9012 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 359 Pleasant Hill Dr. > Winona, MN 55987 > > ------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > This message was posted to Winona Online Democracy > All messages must be signed by the senders actual name. > No commercial solicitations are allowed on this list. > To manage your subscription or view the message archives, please visit > http://mapnp.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/winona > Any problems or suggestions can be directed to > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you want help on how to contact elected officials, go to the Contact page at > http://www.winonaonlinedemocracy.org _______________________________________________ This message was posted to Winona Online Democracy All messages must be signed by the senders actual name. 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