[Winona Online Democracy]



You may find the rules on our website: www.winonaonlinedemocracy.org  We all agreed to abide by these when we signed up for membership.  To my knowledge there is no membership list of names--only email addresses.  Craig Brooks has access to that list which would only give us a hint regarding the identities of all the members. The only time anyone knows for certain that an individual is a member is when s/he posts to the list and signs the post with his/her name as is required by the rules.
 
I'm not sure how to proceed as Roy, who is a member of the steering committee, has chosen to respond to Jerome's post individually.  The conversation from last Tuesday's steering committee meeting has been ongoing via emails between members of the steering committee, including Roy.  I'm surprised by his perception that the issue had been laid to rest.  I had hoped that the steering committee might be able to come to some consensus as to a statement regarding the questions raised by Jerome.  Regardless, I will attempt to explain the rationale for the action.
 
I will try to respond the best I can, but it is of utmost importance to me that I respect the privacy of Dr. Schild and all other individuals with whom I have corresponded in the course of moderating the discussion over the past few years.  There have been many rule violations over the years with only two resulting in suspensions during my tenure as a moderator.  Dr. Schild's is the second.  No off-list communications or suspension notices have ever been public information.  I think this is true of Steve Kranz's tenure as list manager as well.  My sense is that it is to protect the privacy of members off-list communication and is consistent with our rule about not forwarding private emails to the list.
 
Let me preface all of this by informing everyone of my (and previously, Sharon's) procedures for addressing these types of violations.  Our first course of action has always been to send a friendly, respectful reminder of the rules to the individual.  Sometimes it is not accompanied by any parallel action that the entire list would see.  Other times this is accompanied by a note to the list with a reminder of the rules or asking for a greater level of civility or re-framing the discussion back toward the issues at hand. 
 
Some of you may recall or may wish to review the archives for examples of this type of moderator intervention as far as messages to the entire list are concerned.
 
If the individual does not acknowledge the rule violation, but stops pursuing the individual or issue in a way that is contrary to the rules, no further action is taken.  If there are frequent offenses (e.g., several posts or issues within a few weeks time), then an off list message to the individual is sent indicating that this is grounds for suspension from the list and options are explored to meet the both the goals of inclusiveness and civility.  If the individual and I (and/or Sharon at the time she was co-moderating) can not resolve the situation to meet both objectives, then the individual will be informed of suspension from the list for 90 days, at which time s/he would be eligible to re-join, again agreeing to abide by the rules as stated on the website.
 
My experience has been that often times individuals who break a rule will self-reflect and later on submit a message to the list apologizing for mis-stepping the rule.  In this case, I feel that there is no intervention needed by the moderator.  I know that at times I have stated that we all could be in the situation of becoming passionately overzealous about issues that are personally important and have asked for all to self-monitor as much as possible.  I try to encourage acceptance of human imperfection while also trying to create a norm or expectation of civility.  I have consistently been of the opinion and I think my moderating has reflected that it is not a rule violation per se that is as great a threat to online civility as an individual's response to being cautioned after having overstepped the boundary of civility.
 
My experience has been that for the most part, when members have been confronted, they acknowledge this and agree to self-monitoring and commit to improved civility in the future.  Sometimes individuals will voluntarily post to the list acknowledging their error or clarifying their statements.  Sometimes I suggest or request that individuals post to the list in order to do so (i.e., make amends for a rule transgression).  Rarely individuals have stated they preferred to voluntarily unsubscribe.  In one previous case, when an individual disagreed with my assessment of the rule violation, the individual was suspended for 90 days.
 
Just a reminder that our rules state:
 
"It is the list manager�s job to make sure these rules are followed and to take action, using his/her judgment, to help maintain a constructive discussion. Among other things, these actions can include removing a member from the list for a serious violation or repeated violations. The list manager has the final word on any issues regarding rule violations and/or when it is appropriate to remove a member from the list."
 
It was this section of the rules empowering the list manager to make that judgment call that I think is most significant to my actions regarding Dr. Schild.
 
The rule in question is as follows:
 
"Disagreements and conflicting viewpoints are a natural part of discussion, but list members should work to discuss them constructively. Talk about the issues, not the individuals. Try to help people understand your point without being antagonistic, sarcastic or argumentative. Ask questions to try and understand others� points of view. Keep in mind the words of Thomas Jefferson, 'I never saw an instance of one or two disputants convincing the other by argument'."
 
The post by Dr. Schild that initially caused me to become concerned about rule violation was on November 3, 2004:
 
"I wonder if Winona Online Democracy (WOD) members will be as angry at Larry Jacobs as they were at me a few months back. I wonder if they'll write the same kind of things about him as they wrote about me. I wonder if they'll urge him to 'get a life'." 
 
These are questions, but certainly the intent is not to facilitate understanding.  In my assessment, it was to remind the list of the poor reaction to his presentation and to assert the validity of his criticisms.  I believe he acknowledged this to me at some point in our exchanges.  To me the tone was antagonistic and inflammatory and, I believe, intentionally that way.  It did not seem to me to be in the spirit of civil discourse.  I wanted to affirm his right to assert his concerns and the validity of his findings in a way that would be more constructive and less critical of WOD members.
 
Now I can hear you all wondering, "NOVEMBER?!!?  Why is this happening now?!?!"
 
Well, Dr. Schild and I have been involved in and off and on exchange regarding his conduct on WOD since May of 2003 after his presentation at the historical society.  I thought that we had reached a "meeting of minds" last June of 2003 after several email exchanges and at least one phone conversation.
 
In November, I contacted him off-list again in accordance with the procedures described above.  We could not come to a meeting of minds at that point and he asked to meet with me face to face.  I agreed.  For a number of reasons, that meeting did not take place until May 21, 2004.  Suffice it to say that his post regarding his recent paper was the catalyst for the meeting finally taking place, but was in no way, shape or form the reason for the meeting. I believe that I stated clearly to him that my purpose in meeting with him was to find a mutually agreeable solution to the dilemma I felt as the moderator having to respond to him not only as a member, but as a journalist and a researcher for whom WOD is the subject of the apparently ongoing research he is doing.
 
I left that meeting having none of my questions answered, but rather had been the target of his questions, which I attempted to answer directly and honestly.  I reviewed both my email exchanges with him and the archives and found this to be a fairly consistent pattern of interaction.
 
It was at this point that, after months of carefully considering his questions and concerns and trying to do the right thing (admittedly hoping that it would all just go away--which I consider a fairly human response) that I finally came to the conclusion that it was the right decision to suspend Dr. Schild from the list as had been the case with a previous member who disagreed with the moderators' assessment.
 
Much of this came up at the steering committee meeting last Tuesday and has prompted a discussion of whether or not the steering committee should hear appeals of suspended list members or how we should adapt the rules to better address situations like this in the future.  I think this is an excellent topic for discussion and invite/suggest  the steering committee open the discussion up to the list on another discussion thread.  I am in total support of an adaptation of the rules and can see how the current rules have not been sufficient to address the kind of conflicts that grew out of the situation.  I also stand by my decision as the right decision given the rules and the history of moderator actions to address civility and rule violations.
 
I thank you all for reading this far if you have done so and will likely refrain from answering any other questions about this matter for a while.  I hope you will all understand that although this is a new issue for many of you, it is a very long-standing one that I have spent many hours contemplating, losing sleep over, researching, consulting, and trying to address directly with Dr. Schild rather than create a situation that could lead to incorrect assumptions such as the one asserted by Jerome earlier today when he intimated that I, "personally felt this action was necessary to prevent the collapse of constitutional government and western civilization as we have known it."
 
For the record, Jerome, that is not a feeling and I didn't think it either! ;)  I also really enjoy your sense of humor while trying to take my role seriously and hope that this is a thorough enough explanation because it is all I have to say about the matter.
 
Kathy Seifert
 
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