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Just a reminder to all to keep focused on issues.  While I'm not comfortable with some of the personal aspects of Bob's post, I think it is valid for him to express his frustration with an elected official's past actions.  At the same time I think it is most helpful to consider that most elected officials (and Jolene in particular) get involved in order to serve the community to the best of their abilities.  We can (and should on this list) disagree with an individual's point of view without demonizing their motives.
 
That being said, I wonder if it is possible to (instead of focusing on perceived past bad acts) shift to how the district can gain confidence of those who could not support a learning levy?
 
Some of what I'm reading in this forum speaks to this.  For example, I think that listening to the concerns of those who did not support the levy and making an effort to validate those concerns and provide persuasive information in order build support would be an important action for the district to embrace.
 
One theme I hear are that "the district needs to prove it can be responsible with funds" or something to that effect.  I'm not sure what that means to those who are asking for evidence of responsibility, but as long as folks hold on to past actions as evidence of irresponsibility, there will be no movement forward.
 
So Bob, and others, what do you think it would take for you to begin to increase some confidence in our district?  What constitutes fiscal responsibility? 
 
Terry mentions that closing schools is an issue that the board has not met head on.  I'm not sure that this is an accurate characterization, but I do get a sense that some individuals see an outcome of buildings closing as evidence of fiscal responsibility.  To these individuals my question is, "Can you tell us what else would be satisfactory evidence of fiscal responsibility?"  After all, Ridgeway and Dakota are no longer a part of our district, but this did not solve our financial woes or build support of our school board or administration.  Neither was a popular decision with the families in those communities.  Soon the Lincoln Building will also be gone.  Teachers accepted a wage freeze.  Difficult and unpopular decisions have been made in order to reduce costs.  Help me understand why those decisions have not made an impact on the image of the district as making an effort to be fiscally responsible?
 
Kathy Seifert
 
 
 
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Winona] Old Middle School

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Jolene, You probably don't remember the years that I talked to you about the condition of the  Old Middle School, and the run arround you gave me, As far as not being able to remodel the Old school, after you and the Supt and a few others running up to MS JAX and the State Fire Marshall it was a foregone conclusion that we would have to Build new. The Board never considered the Taxpayer Just their own Program to get what they wanted. I'm glad you no longer are on the Board Your actions there did not impress me one bit.   Bob Kaldunski
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Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 12:11 PM
Subject: [Winona] Old Middle School

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Before everyone jumps on the OLD bandwagon about using or not using the old middle school, stop and remember!
 
No one will deny, now or before, that the old middle school couldn't be rennovated.  That was NOT the point.  The point is, and was, the cost. 
 
Not only would we have spent just a much money as we spent on the new middle school and maybe more (who knows how much the developer has spent since it isn't public information) but we would still have had NO parking, NO green space, NO fields for intermural or varsity activities, NO safety for the children on that busy street and the list could go longer.
 
In addition, don't forget that the rules that the developer is remodeling by are DIFFERENT than those we would have had to follow to remodel for a school.  And, to top it all off, the state agencies that WOULD NOT allow us to even consider remodeling.
 
It is so easy to sit in an arm chair someplace and make unsubstantiated statements.  Get out on the firing line once and open your ears to the facts.  Whether we like the facts or not, denying them won't solve any problems.
 
Joliene Olson


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