[Winona Online Democracy]
First of all, Paul's message arrived in my mail box at 4:54 pm after this message from you, Keith, which arrived at 3:49 pm. So it is difficult for me to respond to domething that I haven't even received.
Secondly, I am not constantly plugged in to be able to respond instaneously to every item that does make its way to my mail box.
Finally, even when I am actively reading my email, I take time to make the most thoughtful and reasoned offline and online comments which will take some time as well.
For everyone's information I have not been online since yesterday morning and have been going through the WOD posts in chronological order (not to mention dealing with email related to my regular life--not just this volunteer "job"!)
So, here I am reading Keith's criticism in the midst of having one child begging me to help him put together an erector set and the other begging for me to fix supper.
I will very quickly try to respond as succinctly as possible, but all be advised that I have not had time to reflect on any messages of the past 24 hours and am under pressure to get back to my life outside of the internet.
Prior to opening this message, I had responded to Paul offlist regarding what appears to be a violation of the 3 post per day limit. But as you can see from the data I mentioned above, there is often a discrepancy between when messages are sent to the server and when they arrive in my mailbox, so I have not yet verified that this was the case.
In the same message I also confronted Paul specifically about what appears to be an assertion that the city has funded "fast food frachises" and have asked him to please clarify and to be mindful of his tone--basically, affirming his right to question the city, but to do so respectfully.
All of that was completed before receiving Keith's message below which arrived in my box before Paul's message to which he (Keith) objected.
That being said, I would like to make supper for my family before I even sit down to digest and analyze all of Paul's recent message and formulate an appropriate response.
Please remember that I am volunteer for WOD. This is not my job, nor my life--simply something that I have volunteered to do to the best of my ability.
So thought it may have appeared that the "noise was happening, unanswered" this was not, in fact, the case.
I will return after supper--
Kathy Seifert
----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Paul Double" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Online Democracy" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 3:48 PM
Subject: RE: [Winona] 25 Million and we need to think of ways to spend it!!!
[Winona Online Democracy]
When does communication begin that promotes communication? When does a moderator step in to encourage decency? Perhaps it is best followed "therefore, let their noise happen unanswered."
Keith Nelson
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Double Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 3:29 PM To: Online Democracy Subject: [Winona] 25 Million and we need to think of ways to spend it!!!
[Winona Online Democracy]
Thumbs up for the Council being kind enough to let us vote on a proposed 15 year 1/2% added local sales tax plus a vehicle surcharge!
Thumbs down for proposing the new taxes that at best will show why Wal-Mart was important in the "master's" plan. Their revenue projections, according to the radio, are based on data that is two years old. It has so many projects thrown into the proposal on how to spend it they are now looking for more ideas. The council wants something for everyone so that it will please us or at least enough of us to give them another slush fund to dole out the money.
Is the real plan to throw another tax issue on the next election cycle so that any proposal by the public schools will be shot down? Will be the city's intent to sweeten the number and type of projects so that it will pass and allow Winona to not only take money from all township residents but now we get to tap the Wisconsin residents as well. Will the city propose a toll bridge next that way Wisconsin employees and shoppers can also add to the city treasury?
When will city government understand that if the investments into a community can not be drawn from the private sector the reason just may be they are bad ideas or serve special interest groups. If they were good ideas private investors would welcome the opportunity to be in on the ground floor.
The so called success of Dubuque, IA was explained in an article last week. It is called casino gambling. The tourist attractions were money losers until the casino was brought to town.
If public investments are to be made who will audit the books to insure that the jobs created, are not part time or at minimum wage, and meet the criteria for public investment? Without a checker of the statute required targeted expected results the process becomes a shell game and 25 million buys a lot of silence from those who want to tap the till for their pet projects!
Paul Double
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