[Winona Online Democracy]

Title: Sustainability Series


In that we supply farmers I seriously doubt that it takes a half gallon of fossil fuel to produce a bushel of corn, but when I find someone who knows I will report. 
  Ethanol is a good part of the solution, we just have to make sure it is economic. 
 
Ethanol is also part of the solution for clean air.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Roy Nasstrom
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:00 PM
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I agree with Duane Peterson and Tom Severson.

 

A major problem in improving the environment is that some so-called solutions are based more on individual and regional economic advantage than on potential success in reducing pollution. Ethanol is a good example. It seems that only those legislators (Democrats and Republicans) on the coasts have the courage (admittedly easier to have when your state has little or no corn production, but still noteworthy) to call for far more research on alternative production means before we continue the adoption of ethanol or go into it more heavily. It takes half a gallon of fossil fuel to produce a bushel of corn. Ethanol is not the only problem. The use of nitrogen for all uses of corn (including cattle feeding) has an impact on the environment that may be worse than that of carbon-based fuels—look at the dead zone in the Gulf and the “baby blue alerts” in Des Moines, in which mothers are told not to let their children drink water because of the nitrates in it. Nevertheless, in Minnesota, Governor Pawlenty, with an approving chorus of Democrats, Republicans, corn growers and agri-business, will move ahead on his 20 percent ethanol increase plan.

 

Another comment. The title of the lecture ties the solution of carbon pollution to freedom from Middle Eastern involvement. This is a common and facile connection. In inveighing against corn’s use as fuel and livestock feeding, Michael Pullen, former editor of Harper’s Magazine,  has sarcastically remarked that our engagement in Iraq is in large part in is a defense of  “the cornfields and the Big Mac.” But in reality it is only wild optimism that would lead to the belief that even relative freedom from dependence on Middle Eastern oil would mean no U. S. involvement. Until (unless?) the Palestinian problem can be solved satisfactorily for Palestinians and Israel, we can expect some U. S. involvement in armed conflict in the Middle East for many years to come, oil or no oil.

 

Roy Nasstrom

April 18, 2005.

 

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To Tom Severson:  I agree - - - A source of energy that is only produced by the use of a similar amount of existing energy gains us nothing.  The only true renewable sources are Wind power and Solar power.  Touting sources of energy that can only be produced by expending a similar amount of existing energy wastes our resources.  Research needs to be directed toward true renewables.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Tom Severson
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 4:44 PM
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I will be out of town, but I believe we should do whatever we can in the renewable area.  Governor Pawlenty has a strong initiative to make Minnesota a center for renewable energy 20% ethanol also a Bio Diesel mandate is coming.

 

We need to support any reasonable measure, but the challenge is that some of these produce less energy than they use and others cost more than oil unless they are subsidized.  We need to make sure they will eventually cost less, but with oil at the current levels many types of alternatives become economically feasible. 

 

Thanks Tom

 

Tom Severson

Box 736

Winona, Mn. 55987

507 452 3402 ext 214

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Randy Schenkat
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 2:58 PM
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WOD subscribers---

 

There will be a great opportunity next Wednesday Jan 19th to participate or view a discussion on energy use.   There's a wealth of background at the web site for Winning the Oil Endgame---http://www.oilendgame.org/.

 

What do folks think of Lovins plan which,by the way,  was developed in collaboration with the Pentagon ?

 

 

 

Press Release sent out---


Amory Lovins outlines energy independence in video event

Sustain Winona, a local environmental group, will be hosting a video visit from Amory Lovins on Wednesday, January 19th.  Physicist Lovins, the legendary co-founder and CEO of the Rocky Mountain Institute, is one of the most important figures in the history of "alternative energy".  Sustain Winona will be presenting a video of Lovins' recent keynote address at the 2004 National Bioneers workshop.  In this talk, Lovins offers a realistic outline of how to achieve a prosperous post-petroleum economy through cutting edge design innovations, radically enhanced resource efficiency, and use of biofuels and hydrogen. Lovins' most recent book on the subject is called Winning the Oil Endgame.

The Lovins' talk will be presented at 7:00 pm at the Winona County Board room, 177 Main Street in downtown Winona.  The program will simultaneously be broadcast on HBC channel 19 and Charter's channel 19 (government access channels).  The half hour talk will be followed by a facilitated hour-long conversation, in which local citizens brainstorm ways Lovins' ideas could be explored in the Winona area.  One of the most interesting points made by Lovins is that we can substantially reduce our dependence on foreign oil by designing cars that make greater use of composites.  These lighter, stronger and safer cars will have the capacity to travel farther and consume less fuel. Winona is well known for its vital composites industry.  Implementation of Lovins' ideas in the national arena could reap economic dividends in this area. 

The Lovins video event is free and open to the public.  It is the first in a series of free video events featuring speakers from the 2004 Bioneers Conference.  The Bioneers is a national nonprofit organization that focuses on visionary and practical solutions for restoring the earth.  Sustain Winona is a group of local citizens who are also involved in planning for Winona's Earth Day celebration, April 23-24. 

Future screenings are scheduled for February 15th, on Sustainability and Agriculture; March 15th on Sustainability and Health; and April 19th, Sustainability and Community.  All events are at 7:00 pm in the County Board Room.

 

 

 

 

Randy Schenkat

 

 

 

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