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I would differ with you.  There is more competition than ever.  And some of
it like the religious group that was selling below cost (which in petroleum
does not include any expenses other than cost of product)  in Anoka have
motives that are hard to understand.  They do however put small family
businesses at risk of going broke, because of their loss leader pricing.

We have seen all retail demand more efficiency to get a share of the
consumers dollar.  There fore I submit that all business is more competitive
today than ever before in time.  



 
 
Tom Severson 
Severson Oil Co.
P.O. Box 736 
Winona,  Mn. 55987
 
507 452 3402 ext 214

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Subject: RE: [Winona] Re: Winona Digest, Vol 20, Issue 22

[Winona Online Democracy]

QUOTE (TMSCHMIDT):   2) remaining
competitive with the guy down the street,

Unfortunately, there is precious little competition left in the retail 
gasoline market, not only in Winona, but throughout the portions of the 
midwest I just drove through.  Differences exist between states, and between

major cities vs more out of the way stations, yes, but actual competition?  
Nah.

Terri Hyle

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From:  <i>&quot;Schmidt, Tania M&quot; 
&lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]&gt;</i><br>To:  <i>&quot;C. E. Woodford&quot; 
&lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]&gt;, &lt;[email protected]&gt;</i><br>Subject:  
<i>RE: [Winona] Re: Winona Digest, Vol 20, Issue 22</i><br>Date:  <i>Tue, 30

Aug 2005 13:39:38 -0500</i><br>&gt;[Winona Online 
Democracy]<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Fuel pricing at the retail level is a very tricky 
thing.  Retailers must<br>&gt;strive for that perfect balance between 1) 
cash flow needs, 2) remaining<br>&gt;competitive with the guy down the 
street, 3) actually making a profit.<br>&gt;In today's market, the average 
retailer may only be making 8-12 cents<br>&gt;per gallon.  On a percentage 
basis at today's average retail price of<br>&gt;about $2.70, that's a gross 
profit % of a whole 3-5%.  If any other<br>&gt;businessman were to price his

#1 selling item at that margin, they would<br>&gt;go out of business - or 
their accounting firm would tell them to wise up<br>&gt;and start selling 
the product they sell the most of for at least a<br>&gt;20-25% 
margin.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Yes, the price moves up sometimes at just the hint of

oil/fuel supply<br>&gt;issues.  That's because they need more cash to pay 
for the more<br>&gt;expensive fuel.  True, it does not come down as fast as 
others think it<br>&gt;should.<br>&gt;However, on the way up, retailers 
frequently earn less because their<br>&gt;cash flow doesn't always enable 
them to keep their tanks full.  On the<br>&gt;way down, they try to make up 
for some of that lost profit.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;In the end, it is a game of 
supply and demand.  The price may be near $3<br>&gt;per gallon, an increase 
of about 100% over the past 2 years.  But, has<br>&gt;the demand decreased 
by anywhere near that amount?  Absolutely not -<br>&gt;domestic demand for 
oil and refined product continues to climb.  Why<br>&gt;should be price NOT 
increase when demand continues to increase?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;From the 
refiners' vantage point, they are FINALLY making the returns<br>&gt;that 
their billions upon billions of dollars in investment and 
potential<br>&gt;risks/liabilities dictate they should be getting.  Much of 
our pipeline<br>&gt;system dates back to WWII.  Many of our tank farms are 
old.  We haven't<br>&gt;built a refinery since Mobil's Joliet Refinery 
opened in the 70's.  With<br>&gt;some cash in the bank, oil-related 
industries can actually start<br>&gt;reinvesting and replacing these 
antiquated facilities.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;When the rest of the US consumer base 
was making money hand-over-fist in<br>&gt;the '90's stock market boom - just

by trading paper and not producing<br>&gt;anything - the oil industry was 
busy restructuring, cutting costs,<br>&gt;becoming more efficient.  Now 
they're reaping some of those rewards -<br>&gt;just like any other business 
would expect to do.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;The Oil Industry is always picked on when

prices are high.  Did they<br>&gt;receive any letters of 'Thank You' when 
they were selling fuel at $0.99<br>&gt;per gallon just a few years ago?  If 
you take a look at what gasoline<br>&gt;should be costing, based on the rate

of inflation since about 1970, it<br>&gt;should be nearer the $5.50 mark.  
Everything else went up in price - as<br>&gt;did sales volumes of all those 
consumer goods.  Why not fuel?<br>&gt;<br>&gt;In today's regulatory 
environment, refiners are producing no less than<br>&gt;51 different types 
of fuel around the country.  It's not just 87, 89,<br>&gt;and 91 Octane.  
It's Summer Fuel with 15% Methanol, it's Winter Blend<br>&gt;with only 5%, 
it's Orange County with it's requirements or Cook County<br>&gt;with it's 
own.<br>&gt;Local governments, over the past 10-15 years, have taken it 
upon<br>&gt;themselves to become experts in not only the business of cleaner

air,<br>&gt;but portend to be able to tell refiners what to sell and how it 
should<br>&gt;be produced.  Producing that many is one logistical challenge,

but<br>&gt;shipping different fuels to different locations in the same 
pipeline<br>&gt;present a whole other challenge.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Tania 
Schmidt<br>&gt;<br>&gt;-----Original Message-----<br>&gt;From: 
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12:23 PM<br>&gt;To: [email protected]<br>&gt;Subject: [Winona] Re: Winona 
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