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Title: Re: [Winona] RE: Planning





I have never been a big supporter of downtown development and have said so on many occasions. That position is based on seeing the failed hopes and dreams of many small retailers who hope to prosper only to realize that retail and tourism have high failure rates.  Winona, long before the big box was around, is and remains a tough retail market to succeed in and more important to make enough to pay employees and one self for the long hours and energy required to pay their bills.  I hope that as the plan unfolds that the dreamers will also look at the revenue these merchants will need to survive and better yet prosper.  While dreams at this stage are cheap particularly for those who sole income “is not” dependent on the success of their business and possible loss of their entire life savings to get started.  I hope I am wrong but until there is a significant economic draw like the casino did for Dubuque’s survival we are spinning our wheels.  Can Shakespeare survive without grants and gifts?  The downtown businesses needed to create the economic growth will not have that luxury. Will the planners run the hard numbers to show the economic reality of what it will take or will the taxpayers be assessed for the underestimated financial costs as public infrastructure is build to support a plan that fails to yield adequate results.

 

When I read in the paper that there is a one year payback on ethanol plants I can only think that that may be a far better investment than retail and tourism could every hope to achieve and one that might even fuel the economic engine further and faster.

 

Paul Double

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Galewski
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 1:13 PM
To: Phil Carlson; Winona Online Democracy
Subject: Re: [Winona] RE: Planning

 

Phil/all

I haven't been paying close attention, but I think the issue isn't about studies and a comprehensive plan. I agree with you that the city has had some fine planning and studies done.  The current comp plan has a lot of input - and that's good.

The fly in the ointment is that the city has a track record of shelving studies and voting regardless what the plan advises.

I recall a parking study that had just been put up on the shelf when a bank in town wanted to buy the city's central downtown parking lot.  They swapped land for parking a block away and justified selling the property without the required hearings - calling the land at 4th and Center "marginal property."

I don't think the parking study was looked at as the city moved forward and got the land sold.

It's not about having a good plan.... It's about having a plan and following it. The city tends to get the "plan" part right- It just has terrible follow through.

Jim Galewski


From: "Phil Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:13:51 -0500
To: "Winona Online Democracy" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Winona] RE: Planning

 

[Winona Online Democracy]


There have been several posts recently bemoaning the lack of planning in Winona and I'm not sure if folks are aware that there is a major planning effort underway as we speak - a comprehensive plan for the city, including growth areas; a downtown revitalization plan; and a riverfront revitalization plan.  The city has hired a talented and experienced consultant team, URS from Minneapolis, to head up this effort in conjunction with city staff.  The project started a couple months ago. Those of you who follow my posts know I am in the planning consultant business myself and our firm (DSU) put in a proposal on the project, were short-listed, but were not selected.  In fact, 17 firms responded - a whopping number in my experience, evidence of the interest in Winona's planning efforts - and 4 firms were short-listed to submit more detailed proposals.

There is a 13-member steering committee, advisory to the City Council, and several sub-committees dealing with various issues. All these meetings are open to the public, some will be designed specifically to gather public input.  The entire planning effort will take most of this year.  Joe Barbeau, Assistant City Planner, is coordinating the effort on the city's side.  Details, including agendas and minutes, are easy to find on the city's website - click the Comprehensive Plan Update box.

As a planner with almost 30 years in the field I can say that the city is in good hands with the URS team.  Understand that this is like the manager at Chevrolet praising Ford, but I have known Dave Showalter and Julie Farnham, and their work, for many years.  They are experienced, smart, personable, and have been through this kind of effort with dozens of communities over the years.  This is not to say it will be easy.  Formulating common goals and making decisions about the future can be excruciating, but what's the alternative?  I would urge all those who are interested in the future of Winona to find out about this effort, attend the meetings, follow its progress, and make your views known in constructive fashion along the way.  

Phil Carlson, Mpls




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