Thanks, Stan, for clarifying.  

Perhaps I presume, too quickly, that most schools use enterprise-class APs
or switch/controller-based systems where such functionality and support for
multiple BSSIDs are standard. =)

Depending on the system, there is always support for a 1:1 mapping of SSIDs
to VLANs, but most support a 1 to many and many to 1 mapping, too, although
it can be less than straight-forward.

Regards,

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 2:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSIDs: broadcast and non-broadcast

Greg,

What Frank was alluding to was the ability of some APs and most WLAN 
switch/controller-based systems to support multiple SSIDs - also called 
Virtual WLANs.  To get consistent and acceptable client connectivity, 
the APs/WLAN controllers should support unique BSSIDs (wireless MAC 
addresses) for each SSID.

At Emory, we are using Aruba equipment quite successfully to present 
multiple SSIDs for guest access and WPA/WPA2.  Each SSID gets mapped to 
a specific VLAN and has different authentication and access rights.

 >>-> Stan Brooks - CWNA/CWSP
      Emory University
      Network Communications Division
      404.727.0226
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-------- Original Message --------
From: Scholz, Greg
Date: 7/10/2006 3:15 PM

> I am surprised no one has brought up the issue of only being able to
> broadcast one SSID.  What do you do if you need/want more than one.
> 
> We currently only have one and Franks comment makes sense in that
> scenario.  However, assuming that we can only broadcast one, how do you
> differentiate wireless if needed?
> What I am hoping to achieve in the near future is 3 classes of service
> (Fac/Staff, Student, and guest). (note: we use CCA for reshalls here)
> Fac/staff can use their campus owned laptop and will be able to pass
> right over to a VPN to get "into the network".  CCA can exempt devices
> we choose (e.g. campus run laptops)
> Students can use their same CCA credentials to log in and use the
> wireless in exactly the same manner as in the res halls. This will give
> them a more consistent experience.
> Guests will only be able to click "guest" in CCA and get 80 (maybe 443
> and IPSec - do not know yet) out to the world.
> If a student selects the Fac/Staff SSID they would fail the login so
> could not go anywhere and the same is true if a Fac/Staff selects the
> student SSID.
> 
> _________
> Thanks,
> Greg
> 358-2070 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Bulk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 2:51 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSIDs: broadcast and non-broadcast
> 
> In an educational network where you're not try to leverage (erroneously)
> the
> SSID as a security tool you might as well just broadcast the SSID and
> make
> life easier for all the mobile clients involved -- why not?
> 
> Frank
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jorge Bodden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 8:22 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSIDs: broadcast and non-broadcast
> 
> Jim,
> 
> Yes, I have run into one particular problem when an SSID is not 
> broadcast.  We call it a 'code 18", where the problem is 18 inches away 
> from the monitor.  :-)
> 
> I have found that it is quite difficult for people who do not have some 
> experience with wireless, to set up their wireless devices when an SSID 
> is not being broadcast.  You may be asking too much from the general 
> public to force their device to search for the SSID.
> 
> If the SSID is going to be used by the general then you might want to 
> broadcast it, in order to minimize the calls to your helpdesk.
> 
> Jorge
> 
> Jim Gogan wrote:
>> Quick question: has anyone run into any support issues when some SSIDs
> 
>> are broadcast and some aren't on a campus?
>>
>> -- Jim Gogan
>>    ITS Telecommunications
>>    University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
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