When were asked about this at my previous EDU, we said it couldn't be done. There's simply too many loop holes and doing it with technology would result in students finding a creative way around it (wimax, edvo, hsdpa, peer wesh...)
It would also create account sharing: "tell me when you don't need your account (when back in the residences for example) and I'll share mine when you need it." As stated, it has to be with the instructor setting the rules and providing a dynamic enough class for student to follow. If a student is "absent", he's absent. ... Jonn Martell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.martell.ca On 7/21/07, Ryan Lininger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
We haven't tried any technical solutions to tackel this problem. Our take on wifi use in class is that it is a policy issue that the professor should take care of. It should be dealt with in the same way as cell phones... The professor should tell them to turn it off. As simple as that. Our faculty are interested in a solution like this but the ROI just doesn't seem to be there. All a professor has to do is tell the students to put their laptops and phones away while a technical solution has to worry about so many other issues. Take, for example, non class members trying to use an AP that has been disabled by a class, the student that is skipping a class to work on research for their next class that gets booted because they are on the first classes roster, etc. Just my take, Ryan On Jul 20, 2007, at 3:57 PM, "Ringgold, Clint" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm also interested in what everyone has to say about this because we had a pilot. We setup a website to allow the professors to "turn on or off" the wireless network for their class. This would look in RADIUS and find all students for that professor and change their "access to professor denied". Then all students from "his class" would not be able to login. At the end of class the RADIUS would change back to "access normal". The problem is that for the students that come in early you must do a manual sweep of the "network the professor is in, thus you need to know exactly what location. This becomes very delicate when you have to scan to turn off or kick out 500 students in one auditorium class. Be sure you have enough capacity to perform API functions (scanning for users already logged in) and service clients. On another note, it became an issue of, are you going to provide a technical issue to an instructional problem. If you have a math class and you don't want calculators do you frisk all students to make sure they don't have a calculator or do you have just make sure they are put away. It ran for a full semester, I do not have the feedback from all involved yet, and I have no idea if we are going to continue this or not. Because of this I'm interested to hear if anyone else is going to try this or if they think it isn't necessary, what does your faculty think? Thank you for the information. ________________________________ From: Gary Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 12:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Restricting Students Wireless Access Based on In Class Roles My apologies ahead of time if this thread subject has been posted before. We are looking to shut off wireless access of students based on a scheduled system of when they are in class. We are using the Bradford networks security system and are looking to implement roles for each class taught at the school. However, at this moment, it looks like we have to manually add the students to each class/role until we have our university implemented switchover to Windows/Active Directory from Novell which will not be for at least another year (we are using SCT Banner for our campus integrated system). I was wondering if there is anyone out there that has done this and how they accomplished it. Greatly appreciate any responses to this. Thanks. Gary Moore Assistant Dean for Information Systems Hofstra University School of Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] (516) 463-6067 ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
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