We use the Enterasys WLAN product. They have the capability of "turning off" their network access selectively by AP or building or the entire WLAN.
Jim James R. Pardonek, CISSP Senior Network Administrator Network Infrastructure Management and Maintenance Computing Technology and Information Services Purdue University Calumet Hammond, Indiana -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Phill Solomon Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 4:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Blocking iPhones And again this is not a new problem - we even considered in the early days having the APs in a lecture theatre on a seperate power curcuit with the switch on the lecturn - it all got too hard in the end and we didn't bother. Phill Solomon University of Melbourne. On 18/04/2009, at 2:22 AM, "David Robertson" <[email protected]> wrote: > We had discussions when installing wireless in a new building where > the professors felt that they should be able to determine when and > where wireless should be turned off for their classes. We finally > explained to them, that it would require them to hire a few more > people to work for us to manage the wireless system to handle their > requests, until then, they would have to request their students to > not use their computers/phones during class. > > David R. > > Peter P Morrissey wrote: >> I teach courses part time and I can tell you that this is easier >> said than done. While it sounds good in principle, and in some >> cases would indeed be beneficial, the fact is that students seem to >> be easily distracted and have short attention spans. The result is >> that as soon as you give them this "connection" you can easily lose >> them the compelling distraction of the Internet. The other problem >> is that they think they are capable of doing it all at once, but >> really they aren't without something giving. >> >> Having said that, I am not a proponent of the technical solutions >> of somehow selectively denying access. Many have already pointed >> out the futility of this approach. We have even talked about having >> access denied at certain times based upon class schedule and user >> ID. But again, there are too many ways around that. >> >> I tell my students that they can have their laptops and other >> devices open and accessible during attendance and breaks etc, but >> during the lecture everything has to be shut down. I just tell them >> that even though I like to think I'm pretty good, I can't compete >> with the Internet. >> >> This becomes tougher in classes where it makes sense to use laptops >> to take notes and it has been debated and discussed quite a bit. >> Law schools seem to be one example of this. >> Pete Morrissey >> Syracuse University >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv >> [mailto:[email protected] >> ] On Behalf Of Chuck Keeler >> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 8:32 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Blocking iPhones >> >> Wouldn't it be easier (and beneficial) to get faculty to utilize >> technology in their classes rather than vilifying it ... or this >> too much to ask ... this device is the real connection to the >> student? >> >> __________________________________ >> Chuck Keeler >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv >> [mailto:[email protected] >> ] On Behalf Of heath.barnhart >> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:47 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Blocking iPhones >> >> I'm going to have to go with Jethro on this one. When I was in >> class generally you were warned at the beginning of the semester. >> Following that, a call during usually resulted in either being >> asked to leave or being humiliated by the professor, or both. Also >> Neil brings up another point in a later post, what's to keep them >> from just jumping on a regular 3G network. I think this should be a >> non-technical issue. A technical response is really a waste of time. >> >> Heath >> >> Jethro R Binks wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, Emerson Parker wrote: >>> >>> >>>> The requests I'm seeing is from teachers who don't what people on >>>> their phones in class. >>>> >>> Why are you singling out iPhones? >>> >>> This sounds like yet another case of technology being asked to >>> provide a solution to a social or political problem. And that is >>> generally a recipe if not for disaster, then bad feeling. >>> >>> How about, and here's me just thinking completely off the top of >>> my head for the first idea that comes to mind... the teacher asks >>> people to turn their phones off? >>> >>> If the request is regularly ignored, then local rules with defined >>> sanctions should be implemented and enforced. >>> >>> Jethro. >>> >>> . >>> . >>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >>> Jethro R Binks >>> Computing Officer, IT Services, University Of Strathclyde, >>> Glasgow, UK >>> >>> ********** >>> Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE >>> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at >>> http://www.educause.edu/groups/ >>> . >>> >> >> >> > > -- > David Robertson > Manager, Network Engineering > George Mason University > Voice: 703-993-2443 > Fax: 703-993-3505 > > ********** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/ > . ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
