The funny part about this article, Merikai is consistently horrible.

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Mike King <m...@mpking.com> wrote:

> I'm thinking the Unfiltered version is this one?
>
> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wi-fi-performance,2985.html
> (Which also references this article, (the first part in a 2 part series))
>
> http://www.tomshardware.com/picturestory/571-wi-fi-beamforming-networking.html
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Kellogg, Brian D. <bkell...@sbu.edu>wrote:
>
>> We’re looking seriously at Ruckus to solve our coverage issues simply due
>> to the fact of where we had to install our APs in our dorms (in the
>> hallways).  Our initial tests show much improved SNR over most vendors to
>> the edge of our dorms with their mid-range AP.  We had another vendor test
>> almost as good; Aruba (G SNR was a good bit lower but still above 30 in most
>> places, but A was a little higher on average).  These tests were in a
>> pristine wireless environment; no sacks of water, books, etc… A lot of the
>> performance difference on the omni antennas, which all use except Ruckus,
>> has to do with the gain and thus the horizontal push from the antenna in our
>> environment.  We aren’t looking to decrease our AP count.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Brian****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
>> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Lee H Badman
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:27 AM
>>
>> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
>> *Subject:* Re: Ruckus****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Excellent information, Harry- Thanks. I have a feeling Cisco cringes to
>> read that 3500 APs were tested with 4402s instead of 5508 controllers.***
>> *
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> -Lee Badman****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> *From:* Harry Rauch [mailto:rauc...@eckerd.edu]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:22 AM
>> *To:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
>> *Cc:* Lee H Badman
>> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Yes, we ran both systems at max power to allow for greatest range; our
>> densities in some lecture halls were over 150 active users for one array.
>>
>> Ruckus provides a link to Tom's Hardware Guide that has done some
>> extensive testing of several front-line enterprises APs. The results may
>> surprise you.
>>
>> Here's the link.
>>
>>
>> http://www.ruckuswireless.com/press/releases/20110718-independent-test-reveals-ruckus-outperforms-others
>>
>> My suggestion would be to go to Tom's after reading the "filtered" version
>> for a more extensive explanation.****
>>
>> Harry Rauch Sr. Network Analyst Eckerd College 4200 - 54th Ave S St.
>> Petersburg, FL 33711****
>>
>>
>> On 8/17/11 8:02 AM, Lee H Badman wrote: ****
>>
>> Strictly out of scientific curiosity, is the reduction in APs while
>> gaining coverage based on similar power settings in both hardware sets, and
>> how do you answer the “yeah, but what about client capacity concerns in
>> dense areas?” question when the number of APs and uplinks to the network is
>> reduced? Again, no axe to grind, genuinely curious.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> I know Cisco’s CAPWAP solution seems to strive to keep APs at less than
>> full power. It’s even a metric in the RMM panel in WCS “AP’s at maximum
>> power” and the lower your percentage the “better” things are considered to
>> be, generally speaking.  At the same time, we probably all have spaces where
>> maybe 3 APs would fill the building, but three times that are used to keep
>> cell size small and users per AP at a ratio that delivers higher client
>> throughputs on the wireless shared media. In this case, we could certainly
>> reduce our AP counts by upping the power, but it comes with trade-offs.**
>> **
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> I guess I’m wondering how much of the Ruckus advantages are philosophical
>> (simply use less APs at higher power to cover same space) and how much is
>> technical wizardry.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Thanks-****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Lee Badman****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Lee H. Badman****
>>
>> Wireless/Network Engineer****
>>
>> Information Technology and Services****
>>
>> Adjunct Instructor, iSchool****
>>
>> Syracuse University****
>>
>> 315 443-3003****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [
>> mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Harry Rauch
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:12 PM
>> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
>> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> We have almost completely converted to Ruckus from Cisco and Extreme.
>>
>> We have had very little need for support; the things just work. We have
>> reduced our AP numbers by over 30% with better coverage. Once installed in a
>> dorm setting we have never had to go back other than one device that drowned
>> from a leaking air-conditioner pan. Our dealer replaced the device at no
>> cost even though water damage of this nature is not covered.
>>
>> The indoor models and outdoor function well and deliver outstanding data,
>> video and VoIP. We are also using the wireless point-to-point bridge at a
>> distance of 500 yards with throughput at 250MB. We have the p2p pair on
>> portable stands; one had blown over during a very bad storm but was able to
>> keep connectivity when hanging upside down with the main dome facing a wall
>> 180 degrees away from it's partner. We didn't realize the issue for several
>> days since it never went down.
>>
>> We use a Zone Director 1000 to establish a mesh group and to keep track of
>> rogue devices. I would like a 3000 but we don't have that in our budget
>> lines at the moment. We have over 100 APs throughout the campus.
>>
>> We have had them almost 2 years with no issues. Client problems have not
>> been an issue.
>>
>> Amazing devices.****
>>
>> Harry Rauch Sr. Network Analyst Eckerd College 4200 - 54th Ave S St.
>> Petersburg, FL 33711****
>>
>>
>> On 8/16/11 11:50 AM, Kellogg, Brian D. wrote: ****
>>
>> Looking for feedback from any institutions using Ruckus as their WLAN
>> solution.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Comments on their support, WAPs, Controllers, client problems and any
>> other related topics would be appreciated.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Thanks,****
>>
>> Brian****
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