I wasn't intending to suggest a policy banning 2.4Ghz or saying that I wanted to stop offering service in that band. Just thinking out loud of a policy that we'd make our best effort to make 2.4Ghz work, but 5Ghz would be the better performing more reliable network....I guess though, policy or not that's already how things are working out due to the nature of both bands and Rogue consumer devices.
Also I suppose short of banning 2.4Ghz, it's hard to get student's attention to get them to buy 5Ghz capable computers, but I agree banning 2.4Ghz would cause many complaints. Does anyone have methods that you've used that have been successful in educating students to make the choice to spend a few extra dollars for dual band wireless when they're purchasing a new laptop? On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 6:43 AM, Osborne, Bruce W <[email protected]>wrote: > Banning 2.4 GHz would ban a large portion of the consumer PCs and mobile > devices and all current game consoles. > > I know that would not work here. We initially only offered IPTV on 5GHz n > and had to expand the offering to 2.4GHz due to complaints from students. > Excluding game consoles would also be a very big issue here. > > Bruce Osborne > Network Engineer > IT Network Services > > (434) 592-4229 > > LIBERTY UNIVERSITY > Training Champions for Christ since 1971 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Adam Forsyth [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:41 PM > Subject: Re: wireless printers in dorms > > Has anyone declared 2.4Ghz hopeless and made a policy declaring that users > that want a working well performing wireless network connection need to > make arrangements to connect to the 5Ghz network? If a policy like that > could fly, then it would be easier to run a 5Ghz network with great > performance for all of the laptops to connect to. 2.4Ghz could become a > best effort waste land polluted by all of the printers with their rogue > ssid's, slowed down by the wii's that insist on making 802.11B connections > before they'll make 802.11G connections, interfered with by the bluetooth, > wifi-direct, etc. > > Of course, I guess this is only a good idea until 5Ghz becomes the new > 2.4Ghz. I suppose it's probably only a matter of time until devices like > printers have dual band radios and can cause 5Ghz problems too. > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Tom O'Donnell <[email protected]> wrote: > > I left out a couple factors... I don't know if the printers are > > printing wirelessly, or that students even intend them to. They just > > show up with wireless enabled, and whatever education we've done on > > the subject doesn't seem to help. > > > > Sometimes we'll find a printer and the person has a USB cable. "Nope, > > I'm not using wireless on my printer, just the USB." But they don't > > realize the wireless is on. > > > > We don't intend for them to work, at any rate. We prohibit it, but > > going door to door hasn't worked completely. Word gets around the > > dorms, and students hide their printers :) > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Tom O'Donnell > > Senior Manager of Network and Server Systems Information Technology > > Services University of Maine at Farmington > > (207) 778-7336 > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Julian Y Koh <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> On Oct 30, 2012, at 13:53 , Tom O'Donnell <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> I was wondering how other schools handle wireless printers in the > >>> dorms. This seems to be the year everyone showed up with one, and > >>> they're causing connectivity problems in our 2.4GHz space. > >> > >> How well do the printers work anyway wirelessly? Depending on the > service advertisement protocols and printing protocols used, the client > types, your authentication requirements (since most printers don't do > WPA2-Enterprise/802.1X) and your subnetting/address assignment scheme, I > wonder how successful people are at actually getting these things to work > anyway. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Julian Y. Koh > >> Manager, Network Transport, Telecommunications and Network Services > >> Northwestern University Information Technology (NUIT) > >> 2001 Sheridan Road #G-166 > >> Evanston, IL 60208 > >> 847-467-5780 > >> NUIT Web Site: <http://www.it.northwestern.edu/> PGP Public > >> Key:<http://bt.ittns.northwestern.edu/julian/pgppubkey.html> > >> > >> ********** > >> Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > > > ********** > > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > > > -- > Adam Forsyth > Director of Network and Systems > Luther College > Library and Information Services > 700 College Drive > Decorah, IA 52101 > 563-387-1402 > > ********** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ********** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > -- *Adam Forsyth* Director of Network and Systems Luther College Library and Information Services * 700 College Drive Decorah, IA 52101 563-387-1402 * ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
