Ekahau has GPS assisted survey
http://www.ekahau.com/products/ekahau-site-survey/overview.html

I've used it to map our outdoor Wifi deployment.

You need a GPS, and you need to be a bit careful on how you collect your
results.  Driving 30MPH inside a car did not necessarily equate to walking
around with a laptop. (Signal loss from being inside a car, as well as the
impact on roaming while moving that fast)

Mike


On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Osborne, Bruce W <[email protected]>wrote:

>  Philippe,****
>
> ** **
>
> So, in the US, power line AC is 60Hz and 802.11AC is 5Hz. What propagation
> range can we expect at sub-audio frequencies?  Will this affect
> transmission of high fidelity sound on 802.11AC?****
>
> ** **
>
> Humorous typo J****
>
> ** **
>
> I believe Aruba at one time had a solution (possibly unsupported) for
> outdoor mapping.****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks, Philippe.****
>
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>
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> *From:* Hanset, Philippe C [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 12, 2012 11:28 AM
> *Subject:* Report from Educause (the session was not streamed)****
>
> ** **
>
> Educause-Denver-2012 was a success. Great topics, amazing Weather, great
> audience, and even good food!****
>
> The following topics were tackled by the Wireless-LAN group within the 50
> minutes assigned.****
>
> ** **
>
> Here is the report from our meeting. Thank you to Jeffrey Ballentine from
> UPenn for taking notes during the meeting.****
>
> ** **
>
> •802.11AC Why wait? Why jump?****
>
> AC is 5Hz only, the first offering will not support Multi user MIMO (the
> ability to support multiple devices on different streams) and it might take
> one more year before Multi User MIMO is supported.****
>
> The group was wondering if vendors were already offering AC devices. As
> usual with Wi-Fi, consumer APs are first available then enterprise grade.*
> ***
>
> So, no rush on AC as of today. And really Multi user MIMO seems to be the
> greatest benefit****
>
> ** **
>
> **•        **How to empower users with Bonjour needs (or more generally
> speaking: mDNS)? ****
>
> Members of the audience are starting to experience demand for support of
> devices like AppleTV including****
>
> Remote control and display mirroring. It seems that as time passes, we
> won't be able to ignore it ;-)****
>
> -mDNSext, the new IETF proposal, looks to be the only non-vendor specific
> solution in the pipeline (check Neil Johnson's post on this list for more
> info)****
>
> -Otherwise vendor specific solutions range from light control of the
> multicast traffic to  total control, turning Multicast into Unicast****
>
> and even doing identity based mDNSing (all MAC addresses assigned to a
> specific user can see each other even in different VLANs which can also
> address****
>
> some security concerns if devices are poorly configured)****
>
> ** **
>
> **•        **IP depletion (NAT?, Lease Time?, DHCP server load)****
>
> It seems that everyone is using NAT with leases from 10 min to 30 min to
> answer the growth, and one institution doing 1 day leases without issues.*
> ***
>
> Most people do NAT on their Firewall. The issue of logs was raised, but
> not many concerns there. One institution has a two week retention policy
> which****
>
> doesn't overload the log storage at all!****
>
> ** **
>
> •As a side discussion we talked about RADIUS load...and that is
> definitely something to watch out for! Many members of the audience
> reported issues.****
>
> One institution is considering putting RADIUS behind a load balancer****
>
> ** **
>
> **•        **How to Deal with devices that cannot do 802.1x****
>
> Don't get rid of the NetReg SSID yet it can come to the rescue with non-1x
> devices****
>
> Only one institution was doing 802.1x only.****
>
> And many are doing one dedicated SSID with WPA2-PSK for institution owned
> devices (Scanners, projectors, etc...)****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> **•        **Location Based Services (e.g. IP printing)****
>
> No one is using LBS in the audience or has seen a solution that is
> satisfactory. Do you?****
>
> ** **
>
> **•        **Success Stories with IPv6 on Wi-Fi?****
>
> Not much traction there. Someone mentioned one example of a faculty that
> needed to reach an IPv6 only site in Asia and V6 had to be enabled for that
> purpose****
>
> Some have V6 enable, but no one has a strategy in place. Remember June 6th
> is IPv6 day...do something!****
>
> ** **
>
> •Is Wireless management slowly moving to the switch? What does it mean
> for us? (Will it all work with openflow seamlessly?) Any fear of being
> locked with one vendor****
>
> The gartner magic quadrant is now combining Wired and Wireless. Most
> vendors are offering Wireless and Wired. Controllers can only do so much. A
> natural evolution****
>
> seems to push some of the intelligence of Wireless back to the edge.****
>
> We had to  cover that topic really quickly due to lack of time. ****
>
> At Tennessee we see the integration of Wireless and Wired as a good thing
> to have the "traditional" network engineer been involved in wireless. Find
> Network Engineers****
>
> with Wireless expertise is hard, this might address this issue eventually.
> On the negative side, being locked with one vendor on Wired and Wireless is
> a deterrent to the adoption of****
>
> such an architecture. Time will tell!****
>
> ** **
>
> •Outdoor Heat maps****
>
> Someone in the audience needed the ability to plot outdoor heat maps. No
> one had an answer for a solution. Do you?****
>
> ** **
>
> Voila! Comments Welcome.****
>
> ** **
>
> Best,****
>
> ** **
>
> Philippe Hanset****
>
> Univ. of TN, Knoxville****
>
> www.eduroamus.org****
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