Hello Group,

We have traditionally designed to have AP's in common area(s) and hallways for 
serviceability.  We too have encountered Cisco RRM reducing radio TX power to 
minimize interference.
The current model moving forward will be to design for 5GHz with AP's located 
inside the rooms. Building construction materials and other sources of RF 
signal attenuation help create
separate RF collision domains, which allows greater flexibility in channel 
reuse and increases network capacity. Depending on the capacity requirements 
and density of your AP deployment it may be a good practice to turn off the 
2.4GHz radio off on certain AP's to get acceptable channel separation. We are 
contracting out 3-D RF Predictive Modeling to perform these designs.
We also will be pulling 2 CAT6 cables to each AP location to prepare for 
802.11ac which will coming this year and runs only on 5GHz.


Max Lopez
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University of Colorado
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 11:59 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] students per AP in residence halls


On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Tom O'Donnell 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I was wondering what other schools have for a ratio of students to
AP's in the residence halls, either definitely or approximately?


Tom,

At University of Tennessee Knoxville, we have redone our Dorms this summer and 
have had great success with the new design
(almost no calls to the Help Desk during back to school, compared to a total 
"fear" of back to school in previous years ;-)

Here is what we did:
-APs are located in rooms, designed to have 5 GHz in every room.
-We stagger the APs to respect a ratio of 5 or 6 person per AP, with at least 
100 Mbps uplink/AP
-We cover everything at 5 GHz and let ARM (the Aruba algorithm) deal with the 
2.4 GHz coverage (3 channels, not 4)
-Usually the position of bathrooms dictates the pattern of AP location
 (in some cases we had to go to 4 students/AP just because the design of the 
building forced us to do so)
In general, dual occupation rooms are much easier to deal with than single 
occupation rooms.
-Some buildings have great penetration vertically, some have great penetration 
horizontally. The staggering will be a function of the building
  characteristics. We usually survey a few floors for each building to 
establish a pattern then do the rest on paper. We also use the Algorithm
 provided in Airwave to corroborate our findings.

Hope it helps,

Philippe
www.eduroamus.org<http://www.eduroamus.org>





If you have such a number, how do you count dual-band AP's?  They're
doing more than a 2.4GHz AP, but not quite as much as two AP's.

Then one last related question... Would anyone know their relative mix
of 2.4GHz vs. 5GHz connections in residence halls?

Thanks.

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Information Technology Services
University of Maine at Farmington
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