I have one other comment about placing the APs in the rooms.


When we had the APs (Aruba AP-125) in the hallways, on the walls, some of the 
APs in the male dorms suffered antenna damage and it was difficult to isolate 
who caused the issue to bill for damages.



Now theAPs are in the rooms, we have a small group of students (the residents 
in the room) who are responsible for any breakage. Since the APs have been 
moved into the roms, we have not had any antenna breakage.


Bruce Osborne
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IT Network Services

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From: John Kaftan [[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: students per AP in residence halls


I've been moving into the rooms.  Often there is duct work in the halls and I 
have had some issues with students tampering with APs, mostly just unplugging 
them but one was destroyed.  The unplugging is annoying though.

I just sacrifice one of the room ports.  So far nobody has complained.

I wanted them in the halls initially so I could service them but I just don't 
need to do that very often.  It makes more sense to have killer signal in the 
rooms and ok signal in the hallways than the other way around.

I use a zig zag pattern per floor and I alternate the zig with the zag per 
floor.  Surprisingly, I see very good coverage through the floors.

John Kaftan
IT Infrastructure Manager
Utica College

On Jan 21, 2013 11:45 PM, "Tristan Gulyas" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Tom.

The issue we've had is not one of density but one of coverage; in some site 
surveys we'e conducted recently in our residential spaces, we are finding that 
one AP might cover only a small amount of students, say, 6-12 reliably.

The challenges have been that our residential halls are old, double-brick with 
all sorts of reinforcement. We are site surveying for 2.4GHz - we can't justify 
the cost of a high density deployment to support 5GHz everywhere.

I have also noticed that HP produce a small active wall-outlet switch+AP which 
is PoE powered.  It is b/g/n 2.4GHz-only (sigh) and is aimed at the hospitality 
industry.

Where are people placing their APs?  We currently place them in the corridor, 
however our challenge has been that the APs see each other and RRM wants to 
drop the power levels.  We also run into issues if we have more than three APs 
in direct line of sight.

I'm curious - how do hotels deal with this problem?  They have similar 
construction and requirements.

Cheers,
Tristan
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Tom O'Donnell 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I was wondering what other schools have for a ratio of students to
AP's in the residence halls, either definitely or approximately?

If you have such a number, how do you count dual-band AP's?  They're
doing more than a 2.4GHz AP, but not quite as much as two AP's.

Then one last related question... Would anyone know their relative mix
of 2.4GHz vs. 5GHz connections in residence halls?

Thanks.

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Information Technology Services
University of Maine at Farmington
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