Just brainstorming here...

CAPWAP tried to accomplish some standardization for Controller/AP 
communication, but I haven't seen
many CAPWAP compatible devices!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAPWAP

This said, if you follow what's happening with OpenFlow 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenFlow) on switches,
and since switches and wireless equipment seem to progressively integrate, we 
could make a leap and think
that eventually there will be a common set of features that will be 
standardized for wireless as well.

OpenFlow accomplishes on switches what we have been doing with wireless for a 
few years:
Separation of control plane and data plane!

This reminds me a little bit of OBD-II with cars. Part of the settings are 
public and standard, part of it is private!

Philippe Hanset
www.eduroamus.org<http://www.eduroamus.org>




On Jan 30, 2013, at 7:41 AM, "Osborne, Bruce W" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
 wrote:

Daniel,

There are too many custom features and proprietary closed protocols  to permit 
AP to controller interoperability.

For multi-vendor wireless monitoring & management, the Airwave AWMS (AMP) 
product has excelled for many years. Even though the product is now owned by 
Aruba Networks, Airwave has retained its multi-vendor features.

Bruce Osborne
Liberty University

From: Daniel Eklund [mailto:[email protected]<http://UMICH.EDU>]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: New Cisco Wireless Gear - 5760WLC & Cat3850

As I've said recently, I really wish that there was a standard that all APs 
would use and all controllers would use so that they could all talk together.  
I know this is probably unlikely to happen, but we have interoperable wired 
networks and I just wish the same for the wireless side.  Maybe a universal 
controller is more realistic, something that understands how to talk to all 
types of APs.

--
Daniel Eklund
Network Planning Manager
ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers
University of Michigan
734.763.6389

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Peter P Morrissey 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
My view regarding the 3850 is that anything that locks you into a vendor, and 
makes it more difficult to switch to a competitor is a bad thing for the 
consumer, and should be considered with  your eyes wide open to the long term 
consequences. In my mind, one would have to make an extremely compelling 
business case to counter that tradeoff. Keep in mind that the Vendor’s job is 
to make “switching costs” as high as possible for the consumer.
It is bad enough that we still have to purchase AP’s and controller’s from the 
same vendor.

The 5700 looks like a great idea for those of us with large wireless networks.

Pete Morrissey



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
 On Behalf Of Luke Jenkins
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:18 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] New Cisco Wireless Gear - 5760WLC & Cat3850

At Cisco Live London today, Cisco announced two new WLCs:

5760 WLC - http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps12598/index.html

and the Cat3850 Switch - http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps12686/index.html

IOS XE for both of these (not AireOS) and the ability to do termination of 
CAPWAP on the switch with optional mobility tunnels back to a controller. The 
datasheet for the Cat3850 has some info on this new option. Could be 
situationally useful, but I'm not quite sold on the advantages vs. the current 
model for higher ed where many of us are using big central pools of real IPs 
and no NAT for our wireless users. Thoughts?

-Luke

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