:-)

Ah those were the days with Apple talk cabling hanging from the celling all 
around us.  And right along side Thick Ethernet cabling!

Sincerely,

Sharon Luciw
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________________________________
From: Mark Duling [[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLC 7.4.100.60(Beta Version)

Well there are things worse than waiting, such an less work for us to do.  
AppleTalk was introduced in 1985, and zones came along in AppleTalk Phase II in 
1989.  Networks at the business level were very new then.  Now networks are 
such a competitive market that vendors are competing to solve certain problems 
for Apple such as zoning, though it isn't clear how it will all shake out.  I 
think Apple is doing the reasonable thing at this point in time, which is to 
create solutions popular enough that people care that managing it is a problem. 
 That means an opportunity for others.  No other method is likely to get off 
the ground these days.

This is just the consumerization of IT.  I'm happy that they're taking this 
approach, because it is enabling people to do more faster, if not perfectly.  I 
think they've identified their customers quite well, and IT manager's needs 
don't rate as highly as the needs of the consumer to them.  It's a different 
world, but I don't want to go back to the old one.  We'd all do the same in 
their position.  I think job security implies a certain amount of chaos.  It 
could be a lot worse, and has been from my point of view.

Just my $.02

Mark


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Lee H Badman 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
It's this sort of support nightmare that keeps us waiting for Apple to fix 
their problem. It's great that WLAN vendors are creatively coming up with 
work-arounds but I have yet to find gadget/method/paradigm/unicorn dust that 
both satisfies the technical and administrative challenges of devices that just 
aren't ready to play on business networks. But like everyone else, I'm hoping 
for sunnier days soon:)

Lee H. Badman
Network Architect/Wireless TME
ITS, Syracuse University
315.443.3003<tel:315.443.3003>
________________________________
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] 
on behalf of Scott Allen [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLC 7.4.100.60(Beta Version)

Trent,
Sorry for the delay – my response to your question:

“On your apple tv’s are you connecting them to WPA/enterprise ssid?  If so how 
are you dealing with the time sync issue when the apple tv loses power?”

Is that we don’t deal with it very well.
I met with our technical team yesterday and we are planning to limit the mDNS 
service to our 802.1x SSID only.
As you know, to bootstrap the device to an 802.1x network, you need to plug in 
an Ethernet cable first to get the time set and then unplug the cable to switch 
over to WIFi.
If the device loses power, you need to repeat the sequence.  There is no 
current workaround that I’m aware of.
Either we find a way to make the device happy to think it is living at the dawn 
of unix epoch or we wait for apple’s promised fall 2013 ATV code upgrade to fix 
change things.

-Scott

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[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
 On Behalf Of Hurt,Trenton W.
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 1:50 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLC 7.4.100.60(Beta Version)

I have been running it on 5508’s with over 2500 aps, no real major issues that 
I am seeing or that anyone is reporting to me.



Scott,

On your apple tv’s are you connecting them to WPA/enterprise ssid?  If so how 
are you dealing with the time sync issue when the apple tv loses power?

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Allen
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 1:28 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLC 7.4.100.60(Beta Version)

We’ve been running for about two weeks on it, about 700 APs on four Wism2s with 
no issues reported yet.
I wanted it to get the latest Bonjour configuration running. Apple TV pilot 
project is going well.
-Scott


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Legge, Jeffry
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 12:59 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLC 7.4.100.60(Beta Version)

Is anyone running this release? Is it stable?
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