We consider not having to deal with CALEA / DMCA on our guest network worth the cost.
Note: we provide attwifi "free-to-guest" which means no one has to pay to use it. -Neil -- Neil Johnson Network Engineer The University of Iowa email: neil-john...@uiowa.edu Phone: 319 394-0938 ________________________________ From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] on behalf of Lee H Badman [lhbad...@syr.edu] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 11:33 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] guest wireless Neil- You’re saying AT&T charges you for this? Do you charge them back for the Wi-Fi offload? -Lee From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Johnson, Neil M Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 11:13 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] guest wireless We contracted with ATT to handle guests and visitors. We advertise their SSID ("attwifi") on our wireless infrastructure and then hand the traffic off to them via boxes called Network Management Devices (NMD) that they provide. They tunnel the traffic to their "cloud" via our Internet connection. They take care of the CALEA and DMCA issues. They benefit by offloading their cell customer's data traffic on to our Wifi infrastructure, so the monthly cost for us was very reasonable. -Neil -- Neil Johnson Network Engineer The University of Iowa email: neil-john...@uiowa.edu<mailto:neil-john...@uiowa.edu> Phone: 319 394-0938 ________________________________ From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] on behalf of Coehoorn, Joel [jcoeho...@york.edu] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 9:13 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] guest wireless I will admit to having a completely open guest network. We don't even require a terms of service click-through, and it's not encrypted. We do have some strict throttling for file sharing/p2p traffic, and I have some decent auditing capabilities, so I can track down violations and restrict them later if needed, but that's about it. We do the same throttling and auditing on the regular network Our Admissions and Advancement offices *love* this: a candidate or guest comes on campus, and their device just works: never any 802.1x issues, never a problem with sponsorships or authentication. We're in a residential neighborhood, but I've learned not to worry about neighbors using our wifi: it's really a drop in the bucket. No one uses bandwidth like a college student uses bandwidth, and as I'm one of those who live just across the street, I can testify that leeching wifi from the college is a horrible personal wifi experience (also: before I came here and I had an hour long commute, and I can say that walking across the street to get to your office is *awesome*). We do strongly encourage students/staff/faculty to use the encrypted option, and the vast majority do on their laptops now, and some on their phones, but students love the open network for things like smart TVs, blu-ray players, etc. They feel this makes our network *better*. We have some game consoles on the open network, but Residence Life encourages students to plug those into a wired port (even providing cat5 cables at times), and many take them up on this. Really, the reason behind this policy is that we DO want to be "a hotspot for any neighbors or people wandering by". We want to be part of the community, and welcoming to guests. I am concerned about my CALEA exposure, but as a small school we've never had a request for data. This may some day force us to make a policy change, but in the meantime, I'd have a revolt on my hands if I ever tried to do away with the open SSID. [http://www.york.edu/mvptall.jpg] Joel Coehoorn Director of Information Technology York College, Nebraska 402.363.5603 jcoeho...@york.edu<mailto:jcoeho...@york.edu> [http://www.york.edu/Portals/0/Images/Logo/YorkCollegeLogoSmall.jpg] The mission of York College is to transform lives through Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to God, family, and society On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Timothy Fairlie <fair...@rider.edu<mailto:fair...@rider.edu>> wrote: That's interesting Heath. What's the reasoning behind the exclusion period? On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Heath Barnhart <heath.barnh...@washburn.edu<mailto:heath.barnh...@washburn.edu>> wrote: We have an open guest network, however, you do have to register with a name, email, and phone number. Guests have 3 days of access followed by a 3 day exclusion period were the device is not allowed on the network. Access is restricted to HTTP, HTTPS, SMTP/POP, SSH, and most VPN. We don't throttle the bandwidth. -- Heath Barnhart ITS Network Administrator Washburn University 785-670-2307<tel:785-670-2307> On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 15:40 +0000, Mark Reboli wrote: I am looking for information on what people do with guest wireless. Do you have open wireless on your campus? Do you have a password that everyone knows? Do you create special passwords for groups? Any assistance would be helpful. 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