Same here. The only damage to AP has been water damage for A/C lines.
-- Heath Barnhart ITS Network Administrator Washburn University 785-670-2307 On Wed, 2014-10-22 at 18:13 +0000, Peter P Morrissey wrote: FWIW, on the enclosures, we've had thousands of AP's for close to a decade, across hundreds of buildings, inside rooms and outside, and have lost maybe one or two. When you add up the cost of the enclosures and the labor for installation, as well as additional labor for upgrades dealing with enclosures, seems like you could lose a lot of AP's and still have a boatload of money left over to put towards your next wireless upgrade. Pete Morrissey -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stewart, Joe Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:37 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips? Peter, Anti-theft. I know it's not common because who wants to shoot themselves in the foot. It has happened before though once the semester was over and students left for a few months. Ian, Yes I'm in the process of manually increasing power levels at this time. --Joe -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter P Morrissey Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:31 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips? What would be the purpose of the enclosures? Pete Morrissey -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stewart, Joe Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:21 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips? We recently renovated some of our dorm buildings. Prior to the renovation we only had about approximately 4 access points per building due to legacy/lack of infrastructure. We received tons of complaints as the demand for wireless continued to grow each year. We have tripled the amount of access points since I've been employed here. With this in mind we wanted to just blanket the dorms with access points (15-20 per dorm, Cisco 3602E & 3702E). One thing I've noticed with this deployment strategy is that the access points are transmitting between power levels 7 and 8. We were stuck with deploying all of our hardware above the drop ceiling in the hallway. I prefer to put them in the rooms but we they are all hard lid and we always like to keep them out of sight. Hallway deployments are not ideal with all the mechanical crap in the ceilings not to mention I have to break tiles to even get to my hardware which makes upgrades/replacements a complete headache. I'm noticing that the access points have more overlap with hallway deployments as they have more clear line of site with each other compared to being inside a room, which is why the power levels aren't changing much even when I'm turning off radios. We have had some students complain saying they can't maintain a stable connection and when they leave their room and enter the hallway all is fine. I'm in the process of evaluating things and turning access points off and trying to line things up staggered across several floors to bump up the power levels. In dorm rooms that haven't been renovated where students are experiencing lack of coverage I've been installing a temp access points inside the room mounted to the wall using a master lock and this has been working out great. This allows me to gain statistics and proceed with a plan moving forward. I'm also exploring the following Oberon enclosure for inside rooms: http://oberonwireless.com/WebDocs/Model1031-00_Spec_Sheet.pdf Joe Stewart Network Specialist II Claremont McKenna College -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services) Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 4:45 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips? Re: Vandalism, just charge the room members for the damaged AP. It is more difficult in the hallway installations. When we had damaged APs in hallway installations, we just assessed the damage costs to everyone on the dorm floor until a culprit was identified. I think, in our case, the offender was always identified. Our APs were mounted on the hallway walls, but that is no match for ball playing in the halls. I agree with Philippe's points also,. Bruce Osborne Network Engineer - Wireless Team IT Network Services (434) 592-4229 LIBERTY UNIVERSITY Training Champions for Christ since 1971 -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Carter [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 3:24 PM Subject: Re: WLAN design presentation tips? We're looking at revamping our "down the hall" model as well as we look to address 802.11ac (and replacing old Juniper wireless now that they're getting out of the wireless market). The biggest thing is the ability to pack APs more densely without signal interference than "down the hall". We have random spots and wireless "shadows" due to elevators, broom closets, etc. Unfortunately more APs means more cost, but we're weighing using a slightly lower model to help make up the cost. Vandalism is just as likely in the hallways as in the rooms. I think that if students know that is where their Internet access comes from, they're not likely to mess with it. Add to that (at least here) there are specific people to hold responsible for the vandalism rather than anyone walking down the hallway. Thomas Carter Network and Operations Manager Austin College 903-813-2564 -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kevin McCormick Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:47 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips? We installed in the hallways due to cost, access for maintenance, and concern of vandalism in room. Coverage from hallway using our design was excellent. We designed the layout in Cisco Prime. Testing after install showed the wireless working very well in the rooms, even on 5 Ghz. Wireless just needs planning and design considerations for the location and environment.
