I think that has always been a problem with Cisco on our campus.  I believe the 
last conversation I had with our SE about that said the 8.0 code had some 
improvements to client roaming addressing that.  I just wouldn't trust using 
8.0 code for another 6 months(my general wait time for bug fixes with Cisco)


Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Mega™.  Please excuse grammatical errors.


-------- Original message --------
From: "Watters, John"
Date:11/04/2014 9:05 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Client Roaming (or, Actually, Lack Thereof)

I meant latching onto an AP not a controller.

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> On Nov 4, 2014, at 8:01 PM, Watters, John <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> We use both. Band select does seem to help push users to 5 GHz but doesn't 
> seem to have any effect on our problem with latching onto a controller and 
> not wanting to until after hell has frozen over.
>
> Load balancing does not seem to have an effect that we notice. Maybe I need 
> to look for a DEBUG that give me some insight into load balancing.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 4, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Kitri Waterman 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Hey John,
>
> Is this with Load Balancing and/or Band Select enabled on your WISM2's?
>
> There was some positive talk here awhile back about how far both features 
> have come and also client support for them.
>
> We're just beginning to test both features in our shop.
>
> Kitri Waterman
> --
> Network Engineer (Wireless)
> Information Services
> University of Oregon
>
>
>
> On 11/4/14 1:22 PM, Watters, John wrote:
>
> We have a continuing problem with clients devices which refuse to move to an 
> AP that provides a much better signal. For example, students entering a 
> classroom typically have at least one WiFi device active when they enter the 
> room (e.g., their phone) and maybe more (e.g.,, tablet, laptop, etc). As has 
> been the case for years, the default client behavior seems to continue to be 
> to hold on to the original AP association until it becomes unusable, then 
> move to the best signal for where they currently are. I know that recent 
> Windows machines have settings to control how aggressive the radio is in 
> moving to a better AP. Surely UNIX-based machines can also do the same. We 
> encourage our laptop users to take advantage of a more aggressive setting. 
> And, we use the Cisco load-balancing stuff to also try to help.
>
> But, we still see the problem.
>
> Now, we are getting complaints about phones (iPhones & Android). users cannot 
> infinitely wander around a residence hall or Greek house without getting 
> small breaks in service (about 1 second or less) when they finally move from 
> one AP to one with a much stronger (and clearer) signal.
>
> Does anyone know anything else we can try to encourage client devices 
> (tablets, laptops, and phones) to change APs more aggressively?
>
> We are a Cisco shop using WiSM2 controllers (7.6.120.0 & 7.6.130.0) with 
> 5,000 APs of various models (1131, 1142, 2602, 2702, and a few 3502 & 3602s).
>
>
> Thanks for any help/advice you can offer.
>
>
> -jcw                                                                          
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> John Watters                           The University of Alabama
>                                                Office of Information 
> Technology
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